[Glorantha] Re: Transcendence and Chaos

Charles:

>Let me note that I do not believe that I understand transcendance (whether
>Gloranthan or not) - but I know enough about it to manipulate it as a
>symbol. ...

It's the same for me. This is all just as I understand it. The preoblem is that the more you view these concepts symbolicaly, the harder it is to remember that logic simply isn't sufficiently powerful.

>Having said all of that, I see no reason why a chaotic could not
>transcend. I suspect that transcendance necessarily means coming to some
>accomodation with both Cosmos and with Chaos - either equally rejecting
>both or learning to encompass both.

All complete beings have a worldly existence consisting of their body, mind, spirit, etc and also include within themselves the potential to realize the Great Self, and transcend the world. Chaos is the potential for utter annihilation. These are mutualy exclusive potentials, you can't have both. Chaotics have already suffered the annihilation of the Great Self (that's why chaotic 'gods' can't exist in the godworld).

However if you do realize the Great Self, then material existence becomes irrelevent. By realizing the timeless Great Self, you jump out of the system and are nolonger tied to it's fate. You do face personal annihilation (chaos), but it just doesn't matter.

>From a Lunar perspective, Sedenya is the realized Great Self of the
goddess. Rufelza is the base matterial form of the goddess; it's chaotic taint is the annihilation of personal identity that is inevitable anyway, and is rendered unimportant though transcendence.

Simon Hibbs Received on Wed 05 Apr 2006 - 14:09:36 EEST