[Glorantha] Transcendence and Chaos

From: Orlanth Umathi <orlanth.umathi>
Date: Wed Apr 5 17:00:31 2006

Just a couple of points of reply, as I was only pointing out a weakness in the chaos/transcendence argument not seeking to totally undermine it.

Simon Hibbs wrote:

> Chaos isn't 'part of' the material world, it is the annihiliation of
> the material world, it is nothingness. How can 'nothingness' be part of
> anything? If you take a chariot and remove the wheels, is the absence
> of wheels now a part of the chariot?

Simon, you are jumping too quickly on a weak assertion with a "may be" in the sentence. I was seeking areas where the analogy could work. However, chaos "exists" within Glorantha, this much cannot be disputed.

Chaos = nothingness is also a little weak. The concept of void is a wider concept that impinges heavily on the world and meaning.

Me: 

>>It may be possible for transcendence via a
>>mixed/common magic approach, all be it, yet another different experience.

>
>
> It is not possible. Mixed/common magic orriginates in the material world,
> and so will always be part of it. However transcendence isn't necesserily
> always via the divine otherworlds. Orthodox Mystics don't seem to have
> an otherworld of their own, yet they are capable of transcendence.
> Orthodox eastern mysticism is a grey area in this respect. It may be that
> they actualy have access to all the 'high' otherworlds, but not in
> an easily recognisable way.

And this contradicts my point? Sounds like the same thing to me, expressed in a different manner.

Jamie Received on Wed 05 Apr 2006 - 15:56:59 EEST

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