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> About stirrups...
>
> Stirrups may tie in with various Hippogriff/Horse myths that that dot
solar
> cultures, at least amongst the Grazers.
>
> Stirrups were obviously devised by Waha as part of the survival covenant,
> perhaps crafted from leather and sinew, and copied by inferior outlander
> peoples...
>
> And every good Orlanthi knows that Gustbran first devised stirrups at the
> request of Redalda, so that riding could be more comfortable for both
> herself and her husband, Elmal.
>
> ...And so on.
>

Nick:
>Here's the last paragraph from Herodotos' "Histories" (I'm nicking it =
>from
>the Gutenberg etext so it's rather archaic):

<Excerpt from the last paragraph of the chapter: Calliope "the History">

I rather recall the sarcasm of Paul Atreides lastly addressed to his father-in-law Padishah- Emperor in the "Desert Planet of Dune".

I suppose at least I understand what you intend to talk about the difficulty from the POV of geopolitics about the parallel between RW Iran and Carmania.

General Castokum (IIRC) induced stirrups from East, Kralorela? in the Erzanestyu Dynasty.
If Malkioni induced it later and not invented by their own...it might change greatly the older scheme of Gloranthan Malkioni Knights.

Both comments of Nick's and Martin's are interesting, (and I took notice that Nick used Achaimenesians (from POV of Greeks) while Martin mainly used Sassanians (from POV of Byzantines like Procopius.)

Martin's explanation about his analogue:

<<> Best period would be around 1150 Crusader states tactics mixed with a dollop
> of 14th & 15th century Burgundy under Charles the Bold (esp his campaigns
> against the Swiss), however due to the odd blend of stirrup wearing shock
> cavalry mixed with actual hoplites, it is a bit difficult to put the
> Carmanians into a direct RW analogy. The Carmanians also field
Janissaries
> and city communal regiments of halberdeers and pikemen.
>
>>

>"was nothing more than a crowd of pitiable peasants" (Procopius)
That is exactly the same that you wrote in the article of Arim's Army from POV of lunars in Enclosure #1,
Sorry, but I don't know how well Byzantines keep their objectivism to their History.
http://www.isidore-of-seville.com/justinian/3.html

>The Sassanians had no such parallel, their infantry was, as Procopius
points out,
>"was nothing more than a crowd of pitiable peasants" and at Dara they were
>slaughtered, throwing down their shields once the Clibinari were defeated.
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