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From: <bogus_at_does.not.exist.com>
Date: Tue Apr 25 10:04:20 2006


on the II site I think) the Zethnoring clan - once Colymar now Locaem - are located here.

But if the Balmyr need to be north of Wilmskirk for your Glorantha, then just do not have them driven from Chormsland by the Locaem. We already identify them as holding Sorang the the south. It makes sense for me, that in settling the conflict Sartar placed Wilmskirk at the junstion of Locaem, Sambari, and Balmyr territory, but YGMV.

>If Halfort is to have been the Balmyr royal seat for
centuries, then it has to be located a lot further north - just west of the Sambari Firebull Clan tula,
>northwest of Wasp Nest.

No. The text just states that the wealth of the salt-mines has flowed to the Balmyr for generations (a generation is usually reckoned at about 20-30 years). Though it is the royal seat now, there is no requirement that it has held that role for centuries.

Sartar stablizes the borders around 1476 - more than 120 years ago - so if the fort has been Balmyr since then generations is a reasonable phrase. However more likely that the fort has been Balmyr since the early resettlement; we know that they lost territory to the Locaem and Kultain, but the lands they fled to may well have been their own eatern domain.

Finally remember that clans might remain in place while tribal power shifts. Some of the clans now making up the Locaem might once have ben Balmyr but have been won away by the Locaem. These do not have to be entirely mass-migrations - note that the conquerers 'left some for the survivors' i.e. absorbed former Balmyr clans.

>Enjossi saga

Yes Enjossi's rejection by the Balmyr king seems a bit trickier if the Balmyr are not up against the stream. But remember this event happens in 1476, as does the peace treaty of Sartar between the clas. There is implication in KoS that the Enjossi clan was formed agains the wishes of the Balmyr:

"Nothing, which the Balmyr could do after that, would dislodge Enjossi or his folk from the area."

and my assumption is that Enjossi and his followers took Balmyr land along the stream with the support of the Colymar, when the Balmyr king refused to help Enjossi - in other words they lost that land too, which ws probably the last of their territories along the stream. It does seem to imply that Colymar enntry into the conflict worsened the Balmyr position in the final settlement.

But as always - tweak it if you want a different layout.



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