[Glorantha] Lunar Mysticism

From: Simon Hibbs <simon.hibbs>
Date: Mon Jun 19 14:00:37 2006


It's been a few weeks since tentacles, and I've had a chance to read through the Tentacles preview edition of ILH2. There's a lot of realy excellent stuff in there, and the material on Luinar philosophy is just a part of it. I also had a chance to flick through Revealed Mythologies at long last (thanks Trotsky), and in particular the eastern mysticism material which was also a great help.

The recent disucssion on mysticism was killed stone dead by anticipation of the upcoming Lunar material. What's the point of speculating in the dark when you'll have hard facts to work with so soon? What I'll try to do is illuminate the previous discussion based on my reading of the material in ILH2.

In Revealed Mythologies the Unknowable All is called the Atrilith. For the Lunars this is Taraltara, which is beyond all comprehension or description (but watch me try). From Taraltara down the chain the other entities are comprehensible at a 'basic' level, where Taraltara is not.

ILH2 confirms that Sedenya is the Great Self of the goddess in her various incarnations and is, I suppose, the closes that the Lunars have to the Great Buddha. Realising Sedenya is I suppose comparable to realising Buddha Conciousness. ILH2 also comes closer than any other Gloranthan publication to defining exactly what Chaos is, at a metaphysical level. Here's my understanding of it.

It seems to me that where the Atrilith/Taraltara is the unknowable All, in order for it to be All it must encompass all concievable things including it's own opposite - the denial of it, the nothingness 'before' or 'after' it. All these things must be a part of it, while according to logic being apart and seperate from it. The All is the union and reconciliation of these things, yet because it is everything it must also be the irreconcilable division of all things too. Gibber! The Lunars call this paradox Agataraltara, or Good Chaos. The chaos intruding into the material world is the material and psychic manifestation of this impossible, unsolvable, insidious paradox. Yet chaos is also the source of all creation, for the All must both be eternal and yet to be all things it must also be the opposite of eternal, which is to say it must be created, and so the world of Glorantha (the world of creation) is made possible by the paradox of Chaos.

Greg has said that the Lunar Goddes is the goddess of Time. I didn't understand that then, but now I do. I only realy 'got it' a few days ago. It comes back to something I realised about Gloranthan myth a long time ago - that the god time isn't in the past. It's timeless because it doesn't live in history, it lives in the moment. The God Time is outside time because it is in the Now.

If Chaos is both the birth and death of the cosmos, and yet the cosmos is eternal and extends infinitely into the past and present (to be All things it must be so), then we can't talk about the cosmos being created at some point in the past, or destroyed at some point in the future. The only way to resolve this paradox is if that creation and destruction is universal and omnipresent. It is the perpetual, immediate process of Time itself in which each moment is born anew, and also instantly destroyed forever. Time is the engine that processes the cosmos, manufacturing the future from the past, and Chaos is what makes that possible. Imagine what it must be like to command an engine that powerful.

In ILH2 the writeup of Agataraltara says that she offers enormous power, yet those who make use of them inevitably find that their powers betray them and cause enormous harm. I think the problem is that this power of creation and destruction is just too powerful. There is a saying that every creative act is also an act of destruction, because in creating something new you inevitably destroy what was there before. Creating a statue destroys the block of marble from which it is cut. Painters grind up plants and minerals to make their paints. IMHO Agataraltara is the creative and destructive powers of Taraltara. To use her powers to creat is also to use them to destroy. The powers available are so far out of scale with any concievable problem that a mortal could deploy them against that unimagined consequences and unintended side effects run riot throughout creation.

So it sems that Taraltara is the All, and Agataraltara is the opposite of the All, yet also part of it. It's a more sophisticated scheme that the one I was using previously (That Chaos is the destruction or absence of the Great Self), and yet I think recognsably the same thing. I still think that chaotic beings have no Great Self but also recognise that this is perhaps a crude way to think about them. I think the 'passionate denial of the moral value of the cosmos' that Peter Metcalfe talked bout is actualy the same thing, because all you have to do is substitute 'Great Self' or 'All' for 'Cosmos' and you're there. They have denied their connection to the All, you might say they have sacrificed it, yet the All encompasses even Chaos. It is impossible to concisely define or categorise Chaos because it is so destructive, it even destroys it's own definition.

On Sheng Seleris it seemshe is not Chaotic, but only because he has not sacrificed or lost his Great Self after all. What he did was refuse Transcendence, but apparently even for him there is the possibility of redemption. Under different circumstances, I suppose he might change his mind.

Thinking about creation from destruction got me thinking about the nature of the moon as a created world. That got me thinking about what the Lunars (by which I mean the mysticaly enlightened, transcended Lunar beings) are realy up to. More later.

Simon Hibbs Received on Mon 19 Jun 2006 - 13:46:43 EEST

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