Mikko Rintasaari wrote:
>> What about Vingans and the (bebeester) Gori then?
>>
Vingans first initiate to Ernalda. However their Dedication (ST 173)is similar to the Orlanth initiation, and could certainly include aspects of IFWW.
>
> LC wrote
> :Annoyed? I rejected that as patently ridiculous in my Glorantha. :-)
> :For me, IFWW is the Mortal contribution to the continuation of Glorantha.
Yes! I don't think an Ernaldan is in any way closed to IFWW, indeed I
don't think its closed to any intelligent adult species in Glorantha. I
conceive of IFWW is part of the Gloranthan ground of being, at least in
the form told and experienced by theists. For other worshippers it might
be conceived and experienced in different ways, and the same primal fact
will take on other shades and overt meanings.
For Ernaldans, it becomes a question of whether the right ritual tools are available, whether the paths are well known, whether they're travelled enough to include in initiands' preparation. Also its a question of whether access to the event is safe for inexperienced worshippers, and whether its lessons and gifts are central to the act of becoming an adult woman in that society. Remember that an Ernaldan initiation is pretty jam-packed already.
But initiation is dangerous, and the paths of the Great Before can lead to many places. Ernalda endured IFWW, and contributed to it, though not necessarily in ways that Orlanthi men understand. So an individual female initiation might lead there. it might even be survived. Such a woman would gain powers and perspectives different from the norm, and perhaps become open to the ways of Vinga or the Gori.
So as always, its about trusting and building the myth of your own game rather than relying too heavily on the rules and background guidelines. YGMV. Cheers
John
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From Single vision and Newton's sleep!
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