[Glorantha] Re: Grandmother, a patriarchal concept?

Still in thinking time (apologies for the confusing question but this is how it came out. I will try and rephrase soon.

But, I will break silence to comment on a couple of things

Donald Oddy:
Except there will be people who don't know their mothers, maybe

> they were orphaned or abandoned and taken in by strangers. The
> rarer this is in a society the less status and security such
> people have. I can see Esrolian society being particularly harsh
> on such unfortunates - "You don't know who your great grandmother
> was! She must have been a slave or stickpicker to abandon her
> child".

I think a matriarch will be inherently nurturing and inclusive and unlikely to penalise those who don't know their parents. Your idea Seems like a reverse concept of bastard to me (ie skewed by trying to hold up a mirror and then extrapolating).

Simon:
> How is Mother a Patriachal concept? People are born of a mother and
> they know who is their near kin. So they measure kinship in terms of
>maternal siblings (born to the same mother - if someone knows the
>proper term or a better term then I'll use it). So, kinship probably
>includes, not necessarily in the order of importance, the following:
> Maternal siblings (born to the same mother)
> Mother
> Mother's Maternal Siblings
> Mother's mother and so on ....
> Sisters' children
> Aunts' Children
> Great Aunts' Children and so on ...

Donald was right in his reading of my point, ie Father Dougal or Mother Superior.

I see a potential order as:

Childern of my mother and her Sisters
Mother and her Sisters and Brothers (fathers having status as adopted uncles)
Matriach (eldest of Mother's mother and Mother's Mother's sisters.)

This would not necessarily be ones maternal grandmother

Jamie Received on Tue 04 Jul 2006 - 15:40:22 EEST