[Glorantha] Antigods

Joerg:

>Nils>>I think most of the sea gods are actually considered to be
> >>antigods. E.g. Venperesha is the antigoddess of sea animals.

>Me> That's a subjective and polemical classification (one readily
> > made by the Vithelans)

>Unless they have a distinct myth how the sea deities descended from (or
>were made by) Vith and Gebkeran. In the case of Ivaro, we have a sea deity
>made by Vith for Laraloori.

And the Orlanthi have myths of how Wakboth is descended from the Unholy Trio. It doesn't make the Wakboth part of the Storm Tribe so that the Vithelans have myths about the formation of Sea Gods doesn't make them part of their Pantheon.

> > The sea gods are not part of the Vithelan pantheon
> > but have their own mythology and connection with
> > the Transcendent.

>Apart from Avanapdur and the Iradgenderi, don't all antigods
>have some (mostly twisted) connection with the Transcendent?

In the sense of antigods of the Adpara (short list on revealed mythologies p54), the only antigods that have a connection with the Transcendent are the Sheredpara. The other antigods gain their power through destruction or denial of any connection with the Transcendent.

>Which really makes me curious about the role of the beakies in Solkathi's
>assault on Brithos. Maybe hapless keets driven before the waves? Enslaved
>subjects? Turntails?

Collaborators is my guess.

> > Describing [the Gorger pain aura] as a practice doesn't sound right.
> > The Gorgers are monsters, not humans, and their aura of pain is
> > innate, not learned.

>Or something gained by Debaday through misapplied mysticism, not (just)
>for himself, but for his troops?

Gaining power for the troops is a motivation that sounds too modern as the Antigods seek power for themselves. Think of Sauron or Morgoth - "I did it for the troops" doesn't sound right coming from their mouths. IMO the Gorgers are spawn of Debaday and acquire any features from their parent.

--Peter Metcalfe Received on Sat 26 Aug 2006 - 01:44:27 EEST