[Glorantha] Re: Earth Tribe

LC:

>> Esrolia is the "home" of several important Orlanthi goddesses -
>> Ernalda (who the Esrolians believe lives at the Great Ernalda Temple),
>> Asrelia-Ty Kora Tek (who lives at Necropolis) and Esrolia (who lives
>> in Esrolia).
>
> So does Esrolia just sort of "live" everywhere in Esrolia, or does she have a
> center?

Esrola is physically the land goddess of Esrolia, in the same way that Frona is Fronela, Penta is Pent, Pelora is Peloria and Ralia is Ralios. So the land is physically her body.

But, there's no reason why she can't also live in the Earth Temples as well. She used to live in the Castle of Black Glass as Argan Argar's wife and The Only Old One's mother. She cuddled up to Lodril as well, way back when.

>> the "Creation Sequence" is Dark -> Water -> Earth -> Sky -> Air. Only the
>> last three have "identity" (and thus can rebel, marry, love or hate), as
>> the Green (Earth) Age is when the formless became seperated.
>
> Huh. So "The Great Darkness" doesn't count as Dark.

No, the Darkness is simply the absence of Yelm and the other Solar Gods and the rule of the Darkness deities. The Great Darkness comes after the Spike (Law) disappears. They are not part of the elemental sequence, or are part of the Storm Age.

>> Possibly Orendana is a subcult of Asrelia/Ty Kora Tek rather than Ernalda.
>
> Interesting idea.

I can imagine that many of the subcults can be subcults of other deities as well. I wouldn't get too hung up over So-and-so is a subcult of Whatsherface and not Thingummyjig. So, Vinga, for example, can be a subcult of both Orlanth and Ernalda without much of a problem.

>> Of course, I'd forgotten Genert was the major Earth Tribe god. It
>> seems that the Earth Tribe was shattered by Genert's dismemberment.
>
> Which always bugged me a bit, as it sounds a bit like "once the man was
> killed, the tribe fell apart".

Not really. We forget how important Genert was - he was the main ruling deity of an entire continent. When he died, everything went to pot. The whole continent was devastated.

Imagine him as the Prime Land God of Genertela, his daughters and grandaughters are the Land Goddesses of individual areas, but they all lay on top of him and he lays on top of Gata, his mother/wife. Of course, they are elsewhere as well, but you get the picture.

His descendants simply made the best they could and shacked up with all the other deities, as Earth deities often do.

Pamaltela has an almost continent-wide religion/culture and pretty much everything relies on him or links to him. Genert had the same thing before he was killed.

>> A lot may merely reflect the cultural view of their worshippers. So
>> there is a tendency in central Genertala to regard women as members
>> of the Earth Tribe and men as members of the Fire or Storm Tribes
>> irrespective of parentage or temprament. So we get Mahome as a
>> subcult of Ernalda and Vinga regarded as part of the Earth Tribe
>> although she behaves more like a member of the Storm Tribe.
>
> Is Vinga regarded as Earth Tribe? I always thought she was quite evidently
> Storm.

It's the traditional thing. Daughters of Ernalda and Orlanth are normally regarded as Earth Deities, sons as Storm Deities. There are exceptions, Barntar is definitely an Earth Deity, Vinga is a Storm Deity, but they are both members of both heritages.

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Simon Received on Thu 21 Dec 2006 - 13:28:48 EET