From: Harald Smith (617) 724-9843 (SMITHH@A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU)
Date: Mon 01 May 1995 - 15:46:00 EEST
-Sandy mentions that true heroes have gained their own star (whether in the underworld or surface world sky) and that superheroes have touched the infinity rune.
Of course, this leads to the basic question: what is required to gain your own star? I would guess that the individual has had to go through a transformative experience (probably confronting their own death in some fashion--underworld trek, belly of the whale/monster, etc.). They probably must return with something from this experience for either their people or themselves. Will they have gained a rune (in the God Learner conventions) in this process?
> On the subject of Lunar Heros, one of the foes Argrath meets with are
the Seven Granddaughters of the Red Moon. I can recall only five (Jar- eel, Hon-eel, Hwarin Dalthippa, Yara Aranis, Inadana Daughtersdotter) and one (Yara) is more like a monster than a hero. Anybody know the names of the other two?
I think one daughter is named Glamour. Yara, Hon-eel, and Jar-eel are the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Inspirations of Moonson respectively. Glamour is the 1st Inspiration--and although the writeup of this inspiration refers to a physical location, the ToTRM writeup suggests there is a goddess of the city. She would logically then be the first granddaughter.
If you were to go by wanes, then Glamour is 1st Wane, Hwarin is 2nd Wane, Yara is 3rd Wane, Hon-eel is 5th Wane, Jar-eel is 7th Wane, and Inadana is 8th Wane. Sheng probably prevented a daughter in the 4th Wane by maiming the Emperor. But there should be one in the 6th Wane.
I know from my own work on Hwarin, that she becomes an incarnation of the earth goddess of Sylila/Saird. If you think of the granddaughters as representing the nurturers of the 7 Sacred Cities of Dara Happa, then Glamour nurtures Raibanth, Hwarin nurtures Nivorah/Jillaro, Yara probably nurtures Alkoth (who better to satiate Shargash?), Hon-eel nurtures Elempur (remanifested as Furthest?), Inadana is northernmost so she probably is Mernita (remanifested as ElzAst?). This would leave Jar-eel and the other unnamed one over Yuthuppa and Verapur(Rinliddi).
No suggestion for name, though. This is probably a Greg question.
>Aelwrin Beatpot: Not a hero. Butchering an entire Lunar Great Temple
with a Potato Peeler does not a Hero make.
No, but I suspect we know very little about his development. He was trained and educated (or used) by Jar-eel. That he survived such suggests that he succeeded in his own unique fashion.
>Gunda the Guilty: Not a hero.
She destroys the Queen of the Kiss (Priestess of Zoria?), escapes Ygg's Islands, joins Harrek (and becomes his best friend). Again we know little of her career, but I think she does enough to become a hero. Now we just need more of Harrek's Saga.
Which Argrath? Like Arkat, I think there are several manifestations. Or several heroes whose stars all come together.
>How about Jannisor?
Yes, Jannisor is a hero. Besides the general statement in the 1st Wane History, he does complete a number of quite heroic tasks: binding the Mad Sultanate, uniting the southern provinces (effectively Saird) with the DH pretenders against the Lunars, maiming the Red Emperor in personal conflict. All of these come after earlier heroic tasks in Imther. The Imtherian champion, Onstheus, however, is not (though I think he is considered a 'hero' by locals and he certainly heroquested).
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