[Glorantha]Tribal Centers of Dragon Pass

From: TERRA INCOGNITA <inarsus-ferilt-z_at_mrg.biglobe.ne.jp>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:27:47 +0900

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I think Somewhat there is contradiction about the existence of seminomadic / decentralised heortling have their own need (or usefulness) of their tribal center, for it fixes and mends the seat for specific clans that is near of the city [For example, Jonstown has completely on Aranwyth territory, though Malani founded it.] Aside from the fact Sartar made his cities for unifying feuding clans by making cities on its borders (but he certainly failed about Duck Point and Colymar) , for their flexible and practical way [unprincipled? or irresponsible from the point of view of centralised Sun Dome Templars / Dara Happans] might prevent these centers as a one of functionary points of whole Principality.

I think many elected heortling kings want to rule tribes from their own clan base, not distant Tribal Seat. It might indicate the level of centralisation of each tribes....for example, in DP: LoT, Cinsina and Locaem doesn't have specific centers while Malani and Colymar have their own, even if not Yelmalion Tyrannos Rule [Harvar of Vantaros in Aldachur, Count Lukus of Vaantar]. But this might be too technical analysis and it might simply indicate lack of concerns of authors, like about Balkoth along the Jaldon's Grave..... Maybe some sartari see Hauberk Jon permitted to put on his Jonstown distant Cinsina Land with quite astonishment for the eccentricity among Malani......

*Order of Tribes is according to Barbarian Adventures, Dragon Pass place

Below is older Guide before HeroWars.... http://members.tripod.com/~insley/sartar.html

#Free Sartar
*Aranwyth: Toena Fort [Queen Ilgalad Trollfriend] See Peter Nordstrand Page
*Cinsina: Cinsina Lands, (Larnste Table: Ceremonial Center?) [Queen Ivartha
the Skinner] See Ian Leake Page
*Lismelder: Lismelder Lands, Malani Hills [King Harvald the Hairy of Poss?]
See also Tales #18
*Sambari: Roundstone [King Rogvarth Loud-laugh] See Benedict Adamson's Site
*Torkani: Goodfarm Vale [Queen Yrsa Nightbeam] See Jamie Revell's Site

#Enslaved Sartar
*Balkoth: Yellow Hills? Ambush Trail? [King Angtyr of the Horn]
*Balmyr: Halfort [King Willandring Clever-Kennings]
*Colymar: Clearwine [King Blackmor Kangharl] See Issaries Official Site and
KOS http://www.glorantha.com/new/maps_colymar.html
*Culbrea: Fox Hollow [King Ranulf Turn-tail] See Ye Booke of Tentacles #2,
Patrick Sandberg Site... http://home.swipnet.se/~w-59453/
*Enstalos: Fort Enstala [King Tonaling Hardblow (Perfectly Lunarized)]
*Kheldon: Goodfork [? Queen Kallyr Starbrow] See Guy Jobbins Site
*Locaem: Famegrave? [King Gavial Brightspear] Search about Salvi the Good.
See Some Japanese Malion's Harvar Clan Note http://www.glorantha.to/~tome/howabout/place_interest.htm
*Malani: Two Ridge Fort [Queen Amalda Edrufsdotter] I want to write about
their eccentricity in future...
http://www.ianleake.net/glorantha/malanimap.html and House of Malan...though this is earlier age setting before Lismelder split.

*Dinacoli: Blue Boar Fort, Donalf Flats [King Petrad?] Ghoul King Brangbane
*Princeros: Sharl Plain [?]
*Tovtaros: Lost Man Wilds [?] See John Hughes Website (bluefoot?)
*Vantaros: Aldachur!, Engoli Fort [Duke Harvar Ironfist]

*Amad: Amadhall
*Bachad: Lizardwood?
*Tres: Lost Woods?

#Non Human
Durulz: Stone Nest (Not Duck Point) [Queen Skalfara Wild-wheat] Pol Joni: [None]
Telmori: Wolf Ridges [King Kostajor Wolf-champion]

#Uz See Old Troll Pack and Drastic Resolution: Darkness....

#Lost Tribes
Dundealos: Dundealostead (Now ruined and haunted) [] Of course Earlier Setting, but see Jon Smithers Site
http://members.madasafish.com/~jonsmithers/ Kultain: Twotop (Now Sylangi Centert)[]
Maboder: Stonegate (Now Jomesland) [Jomes Hostralos]

#Volsaxar {Earldom?}
Volsaxi: Whitewall [King Broyan Vingkotsson] (Smithstone [Baron Sanuel]) See Whitewall Siege Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/whitewall/ Bacofi: Darsrest [King Hroar]
Curtali: Dreven Vale [?]
Sylangi: Twotop (First Top) [King Bosodos Bowbreaker]

Vaantar Sun Dome: Amber Field [Count Lukus] Karhend {Earldom}: Jansholm [Earl Willelm the Bloody] Kitori: Zatarn Lake? [?]

#Exiles of Wintertop {Lunar Tarsh lump together it to Kerofini} See Tarsh War and Wintertop's Shadow, though still not official... Mithuinn: Korlokstead? [King Tovtarim]

Hendarli: Hendarstead [King Orios Sternhearted]
Marantaros: Maransdun [King Stonor]
Iristaros: Irist Hold [King Tarkil Bloodybreeks]

Applying their geographycal attachedness to Siege of Whitewall and OiD!...

#South Lunar Sympathizers......
*Count Lukus of Vaantar Sundome

Think about His betrayal in Battle of Iceland to Lunars.....

*Balmyr Clever Kenning King [proLunar]

*Kitori King [Gregged, Gregged, Gregged!]

Volsaxar Tribes
See firstly about Ian Cooper's Power-balance Map, some of Lunar Sympathizers are oppotunists and still likely return to Orlanth worship if such is good

in the course of Hero Wars..., I suppose.

#King of Bacofi Hroar [proLunar]

Example Character of Hroar: He wants to make him true Earl of Volsaxar by hindering the activity of foreign mercenary captain Sanuel, so he might secretly help Broyan to oppose him in the siege. (Or want to make him the true triumpher.) Perhaps Delaying of Lunar Supply?

#King of Sylangi [proLunar]

#King of Curtali [secretly antiLunar?]

Baron Sanuel [from Maniria]
Perhaps he caught oppotunity as King Rikard in the turmoil, (but he is from Maniria, not Tanisor, so he knows and familiar with more about Orlanthi rather than Rikard.) so

Earl of Jansholm, Earldom of Karhend

Bandal Tigerbane in Mt. Passant

Battle of Iceland was fought near of the Auroch Hills? Participation of Fyrd of Culbrea, King Ranulf in future Sartar Rising Campaign....what does it mean in Greg's mindset....?

#Grazers http://www.glorantha.com/products/hqvoices/hqv_grazer.pdf Ask David Dunham about its clannish names and structutes and its tribe (For it seems that Grazers have only one Tribe along with their Solar Centralised Tradition), two leaders [FHQ and LSK], why Sky Bows are hungry? why Yanastan River Laughter and Sora Goodseller are his favorite characters? (See Tales #13 & #15, Enclosure #2, David's Site
http://www.pensee.com/dunham/glorantha.html )

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