[Glorantha]Re: Mysticism

From: Julian Lord <jlord_at_free.fr>
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 23:58:35 +0200


>>Ok, but what on earth is the mysticism supposed to acheive?
>The enlightenment of the mystic.
THAT is the ultimate temptation.

Mysticism is supposed to acheive the liberation of the cosmos.

No : actually, it IS the liberation of the cosmos. And it is the cosmos that is liberated. And it is the witness of that liberation. And it is the liberator. And it is the liberated. And it is the word AND. And it is the word IS. And it is none of these things, and all of them, and some of them, and everything else as well. And nothing, too.

If it has any actual, definite purpose as such, it is beyond mortal understanding, except where it is transformed by an active mystic event ; but always, in any case, within the limits of our own mortal coils.

>My possition is that the true goal of mysticism is not merely the
>enlightenment of the Self, because the Self is just as much an
>illusion as the world.
This would actually vary somewhat from one mystic sect to another. The Self is not inherently incompatible with the Mystic. If it were, it would not exist.

>Look at it another way. Just becaue you die before reaching
>Enlightenment doesn't mean it's the end of the road. Reincarnation
>means there's always the possibility of another chance. Failign in
>this life doesn't mean it's all over.
There's also the possibility that you might be reincarnated as an indigo slug with a detrimental chaos feature.

>That's why there's nothing
>wrong with worshiping the good gods, sure it's not going to get you
>to enlightenment,
ALL paths can lead to enlightenment.

I'm sure there's at least one myth about an anti-god who acheived it ...

>but you can still improve yourself and hope for a
>better chance in your next incarnation.
This is another trap. If you believe this, you will NEVER be a true mystic. Mystics are no better than other people. Often, they're worse. You will NEVER get a better chance than the one you have NOW. The various mystic sects in RW and in Glorantha use various means to illustrate that the Eternal and the Ephemeral are alike. Reincarnation is an illustration of the similarity/identity of the two.

Hope this helps, but doubt that it does ... :-(

Julian Lord

"Hmmm, I've heard of other powers. 
Can you tell me about ...

... Real Life ?"


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