[Glorantha]Enfeoffment and glorantha

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_quicksilver.net.nz>
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 15:24:15 +1200

Julian Lord:

> >But there never was any such thing as a king whose power
> >structure was based on enfeoffment.

>Wrong. The power structure of pre- Hundred Years War feudal France
>(norther France, to be picky about it) was exactly based on enfeoffment.

Two points. In the early Capetain period, the King didn't have any power hence it makes little sense to speak of a power structure based on enfeoffment. When the Kings did have power, much of it was due to the creation of Bailli to administer the royal domains. The gloranthan parallel for this is the Kingdom of Tanisor under Guilmarn the Fat.

>And really, that's what the Hundred Years War was all about, the French
>insisting that England was enfeoffed to the French Crown, the English
>countering that this Crown belonged to them anyway, and that therefore
>France was enfeoffed to them, not the other way round.

No. The Hundred Years war came about because there was no direct male heir after the death of the last son of Philip the Fair. Edward III of England had a claim to the french crown because he was descended from Philip the Fair through his daughter. The French nobility didn't like this, invoked the Salic Law and offered the Crown to Philip of Valois.

This can't really be done in Glorantha AFAIK because there's only one royal house of note (Seshnela).

--Peter Metcalfe

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