Illumination and The Mind

From: David B. Henderson (
Date: Wed 22 May 1996 - 13:28:40 EEST

Further to the Illumination thread:

If an Illuminate's mind is somehow eaten, as in the Bagog ritual of
Devouring or the Thanatar Consume Mind (right name?), does this give a
chance of Illumination for the consumer?

These spells/rituals give a chance of learning skills possessed by the
victim, and spells, which raises the question of the nature of
Illumination. Obviously it is not as simple as a skill or spell, as
objective, but by the same token surely gaining insight into an
Illuminates mind causes at least as profound questioning of your self
etc. as riddling. If one person posing riddles for another to answer can
cause enough (questioning? conflict? profound insight?) in the other to
provoke Illumination, then even exploring the surface of an Illuminates
reality should have a similar effect.

Illumination, IMO, is an entirely individual thing, but allowing it to be
facilitated by others means that there must be some commonality, or the
others' riddles (frex) would be meaningless. If this commonality betwen
minds does exist, then being inside an Illuminate's, which is how the above
rituals seem to work, should be a fairly dramatic/traumatic experience,
and give a fairly good chance of Illumination.

Of course, this then causes problems about other beliefs. If
Illumination can influence another when they are inside the Illuminate's
mind, then other strong ideas/beliefs could have a similar (though
lesser) effect. For example: Brug the Atyar worshipper eats a Chalanna
Arroy Healer's head. A contest of wills ensues, wherein the Healer
manages to win Brug over to his worldview, at least temporarily, and Brug
then feels a trifle upset at what he has done ...

This would then explain much of the insanity among the various
brain-eaters, if such exists, as they are swayed between the different
worldviews they have experienced. I seem to recall a similar idea in the
Wild Healer story, although I can't remember which digest it was in, or
who posted it.

Anyway, to cut a long story shorter than it might be if I keep going on,
do you think a world view has enough power to sway someone experiencing
it in this way, in Glorantha, and if so, would illumination (being so
profound), have an even better chance?

David Henderson


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