From: Peter Metcalfe (P.Metcalfe@student.canterbury.ac.nz)
Date: Wed 06 Nov 1996 - 10:35:05 EET
Nick Effingham:
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> Before I carry on, I'm going to start by saying that I'm not really sure
>whether Time did or did not exist before the COmpromise but I'm going to put
>my lot with the Orlanthi, because there's just too many damned Dara Happans
>around nowadays :)
Well I hate to break it to you but even the Orlanthi believe in the
Consider the following quotes (all from KoS) of godtime events.
p57 The First Ring 'One day some of them were talking about how none
concept of linear time before the Dawn.
of them had ever eaten any Imperial Gazallet...'
p60 The First Harp 'But one time when Night stood guard, the Predark
warriors crept in and stole the gods' herd of shell horses'
p64 The Initiation of Orlanth 'Sometimes, in those days, even the
mountains moved...'
p66 The New Music 'But one day Orlanth went to the Emperor's Palace
for music.'
p67 The Sword Story 'In the old days there was no death or violence'.
p68 The Court of Silence 'For seven days, the soul lingers near the
body...'
p71 The Healing of Mastakos 'A mortal man would need ten days to
climb down from Kerofin, and five days to cross Doziriland by foot,
and another seven to climb to the top, but by following precisely
in Mastakos' steps Orlanth needed only two steps.'
p73 How Peace Was Made. The chequered battle is presented as
occuring over several days. Orlanth does not finish it because
he does not turn up for the battle one day.
p74 Orlanth the Justice Bringer 'Orlanth spent the night in the
And that should be enough methinks. People may wonder what
sky, and plummeted to the earth again at dawn.'
exactly caused Night and Day in the Old Days as Yelm did not
set. IMO the Sun regularly travelled in the heavens between
two points and then completed the circuit on the other side
of the heavens. The night was not dark as it is now but more
like a twilight.
>This is a failing point. Considering that time did not exist in
>pre-Compromise Glorantha then the amount of turnings of the glass don't
>matter. If you had two hourglasses on opposite sides of Glorantha, they
>might measure different periods when they were brought back together.
But what if we choose as a reference macroscopic pheomena that is
> What also seems quite odd to me is the exact amount of years that passed in
Because Plentonius loved the number 10. He dedicates his calender to
visible of both sides of glorantha? Like for example the periods
of the planets? If culture A determines that Planet X had a period
of y days, then what would culture B determine the period to be?
Given that these planetray cycles continue to the Dawn and beyond,
do these periods change at the Dawn?
>pre-Compromise Glorantha according to GRoY. Why is it always in orders of
>10,000 years etc...?
it. Have a look at some of the Indian chronologies and compare them
to the history of the world. Pretty numbers and not much else. Also
note that Plentonius's calender falls down because it does not predict
the Sunstop.
- --Peter Metcalfe
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