From: Lemens, Chris (CNU!AUSTIN3!lemens@cnucorp.attmail.com)
Date: Wed 06 Nov 1996 - 14:41:00 EET
Peter Metcalfe says "even the Orlanthi believe in the concept of linear time
before the Dawn" and uses lots of examples from King of Sartar. My
impression is that KoS is written in the voice of someone in Time not
pre-Time. Hence, it would necessarily be colored by a post-Dawn
understanding of the world that includes Time. Still, it's pretty good
evidence.
I'm not sure I like the idea of Yelm travelling the inside of the heavens,
To answer Peter's question about how long different cultures would say that
Thankfully, Lewis Jardine reminds us that Chalana Arroy met Kajabor in Hell,
then the out, with the outside travelling causing light that is dimmer than
otherwise. My impression was that the outermost sky dome was impermeable
prior to the destruction of the Spike, which blew a hole upwards through the
dome (thus causing the hole that the Blue Moon falls through) and downwards
through the earth, sea, and darkness (thus causing the hole that Magasta
attempts to fill). I rather thought that Yelm generally stayed on the
Spike, where his radiance would be seen by all.
a rotation of the sky takes: It doesn't take Time because Time does not
exist. It turns because (not "when") Dayzatar pleases or Mostal operates
that way or whatever. They would agree that they could observe and count
the turnings. But (incorporating Danny Bourne's reference to Zeno's
paradox), there were an infinite number of them at any place (since Time did
not exist). This is making my brain hurt.
not Wakboth, so ignore my previous explanation (although it should still be
theoretically valid).
David Weihe explains his comment about breaking the symmetry. I think what
he said was that time was a space-like dimension until the Compromise (or
the Dawn or whatever) and thereafter was qualitatively different. This is
different from the model that said pre-Compromise there were only three
dimensions and post-Compromise there are four. I didn't get the bit about
loops at all, but it sounds like something people much smarter than me start
saying when discussing string theory, so I'll just leave it alone.
On the whole, I am having to conclude, as did David Cake, that the evidence
better supports the idea that the Time existed before that whole
Compromise/Dawn thing. Fortunately, all the evidence comes from people who
weren't there, so I can insist that they are just reflecting the fact that
their minds are so accustomed to the existence of Time that they are unable
to communicate or conceive of existence without Time. (More post-modernism
here: conception = communication.) In good God Learner (and post-modern)
fashion, if I insist on it long enough, it will be true.
Chris Lemens, GL
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