From: Nick Brooke (100270.337@CompuServe.COM)
Date: Sat 16 Nov 1996 - 15:50:03 EET
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Andrew B writes:
> Does the Rokari church offer confession?
IMHO, yes: confession and absolution. (Greg's mandate to us was to make the
Rokari like an evil mediaeval Catholic church). They are also unusual in
believing in a Hell for naughty dead guys.
> Are the services carried out in Ancient Seshnegi?
That's "Brithini" to you and me. The Brithini language and script are used by
the learned throughout the West, comparable to mediaeval use of Latin. Note that
most classes at Sog City University are taught in the ancient Brithini tongue,
by ancient Brithini sorcerer/scholars. Modern Western languages are related to
Brithini like French, Spanish, Italian are to Latin.
> How does the average "joe" get out of the fact he is probably sure that he
> will not go to Solace as he is too prone to sinful thoughts if not the
> occasional action?
Knights know that God may be Merciful, even if his priests are not. Cf. the
If you *really* get worried about this, look for a heresy that offers certain
Malkioni "What My Father Told Me", and the stuff about Hrestol's martyrdom on my
homepage: even if he's explicitly condemned by the letter of the Law and the
words of the Wizards, a sinner can be saved. (But the wizards will tell you
otherwise: seek absolution, penance and forgiveness).
personal salvation: the Flagellants, the Perfecti, the Boristi are all
possibilities... maybe even the Guild of Chaos Monks? :-)
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Nick E writes:
> ... the Creator is just another word for IG AFAIK (any Malkioni buffs wish
> to prove me wrong?).
OK, see my homepage articles on early Malkionism at
<http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Nick_Brooke/>
This is all IMHO, so you know, but there's a fair amount to back it up there.
The Creator is a Prime Cause, First Mover, Transcendent, Impersonal, Great
Architect of the Universe kinda guy: he/it set up the cosmos and then retired
behind it. He/it doesn't manifest, or answer prayers or invocations. Though
maybe there are rituals that are pleasing to him/it. The Creator defined the
natural Laws, and therefore all Sorcery works through him. The Brithini and
early Malkioni believed in a non-intervening Supreme Power; the Brithini thought
of it as impersonal, the Malkioni as perhaps personal but certainly remote.
The Invisible God is a Caring, Sharing, Loving, Intervening, Immanent Deity, who
watches over the lives of his followers and intervenes miraculously in response
to proper intercession (by saints, wizards and worshippers). The Jrusteli God
Learners of the Second Age determined that the Invisible God *was* the Creator,
and modern mainstream Malkioni would agree with this formulation. But variant
heretical sects (e.g: Aeolians, Stygians, Syanorans, Carmanians, etc.) and
archaic proto-Malkioni (e.g: Brithini, Waertagi) wouldn't, and probably don't
use the term "Invisible God".
The IG/Creator is the God of Logic, and is thus extremely unlikely to disappear
in a puff of it. "Faith" is something Malkion added to the mix in the Great
Darkness (the Ice Age), when people's brains got smaller and they weren't able
to comprehend the logical necessity of the Creator's existence.
It may be just a YHWH/Adonai thing in the earliest scriptures, of course. But
this gives me more room to have Fun With Theology. Why'd you think Creator and
IG get separate entries in "What the Wizard Says" and the "Prosopaedia" from
GoG?
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Re: Euhemerism
> As non-mystical as this may sound, it's very, very interesting.... anyone
> have any ideas on who might believe this sort of thing?
Most modern Westerners ("There is no god but the Invisible God"), or Lunar
Materialist Sorcerers.
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Nick
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