Brithini, Undeads

From: Thomas Doniol-Valcroze (
Date: Mon 13 Jan 1997 - 13:00:25 EET


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Concerning my proposition that Brithini were agnostics, Peter Metcalfe
>But that is not the Brithini PoV. Look at ToTRM#13, the
>Brithini writer clearly acknowleges the existance of the
>Invisible God.

I guess you are referring to "A Creation Story from Brithos", which
happens to be the origin of my problem.
But note that the IG is quoted only twice, and only in the first two
paragraphs, where it/Him is given the role of a Creator "beyond
knowing or feeling or Being" (that fits in my definition of
agnosticism); never in that text is the IG mentionned again, or given
any other role.
You could very well replace "Invisible God" by "Creator" without
changing the meaning.

Maybe it's just a translation problem from old Brithini to english...

I think I agree with Nick Effingham (and with Nick Brooke) when he
>they believe in the Creator, but not in the Invisible God.

About something different, now:

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In my last game session, one of my players, playing a Humakti, tried a
Turn Undead against a thanatari Mad Head Ghost. I said that a Mad Head
Ghost was not an undead. He said it was. We eventually wondered about
the true definition of an undead.
In the description of the Humakt spell, it says it affects zombies,
vampires, skelettons, mummies and ghouls.
(BTW, where and how can you find mummies in Glorantha?).
But what about ghosts and wraiths?

If we consider that an undead is a spirit blocked, or forced back,
into its dead body, then a skeletton, which is a magical artifact,
should not be considered as one.
If one of the particularities of an undead is: has no POW anymore,
then a ghost is out, but not a wraith.

So, what is the exact definition of an undead?

BTW, when somebody dies and is not happy about it (I mean, not happy
at all), what makes him a ghost rather than a wraith, or the opposite?

Yours, Thomas.


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