Philosophic and theogonic points

From: Carl Fink (
Date: Sat 19 Apr 1997 - 05:40:37 EEST

Philosophic first: on the nature of "rightness".

It ocurred to me while thinking about something else entirely that, to
my way of thinking, the God Learners were right, this despite Sandy
and company saying they clearly weren't.

See, my training was as a scientist. (I've never actually been one,
but the philosophy stuck.) In science, "right" means "works". That
is, the "right" explanation of something is defined as "the one that's
the most useful."

So the Jrusteli had the "right" explanation, in that it worked,
wonderfully, for centuries.

It wasn't "perfect", but no scientist expects any theory to be
perfect, just the best available. By the standards of science, the
GL's were "right".

Of course this says nothing about their morality or ethics, which I
think is where others call them "wrong".


I've also thought that a "true" religion can arise from shamanic
spirit-contact, presuming that the spirit you contact is King Storm or
Mother Earth or another important one.

However, I don't think all religions in Glorantha arose this way. I
realize that it's not currently fashionable, but I prefer to think
that before the world settled into its current state, a Big Sun God
descended from Heaven to rule the world, and that his worship was
instituted directly and without the mediation of shamans.

I'm not wedded to the RQ2 names. I don't insist that at the "time",
Mr. Big Sun God called himself "Yelm", nor that this involved humans
and human-shaped gods, but some solar force should, IMO, have exerted
mastery over the Earth before the coming of the Storm.

I *really* dislike the current trend toward explaining all the myths
of Glorantha as "just stories told by people". We already have a
perfectly good *real* world where that's what myths are.
- --
Carl Fink

"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the
exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them."
  - Frederick Douglass


End of Glorantha Digest V4 #349

RuneQuest is a trademark of Avalon Hill, and Glorantha is a trademark
of Chaosium. With the exception of previously copyrighted material,
unless specified otherwise all text in this digest is copyright by the
author or authors, with rights granted to copy for personal use, to
excerpt in reviews and replies, and to archive unchanged for
electronic retrieval.

Send electronic mail to with "help" in the body of
the message for subscription information on this and other mailing

WWW at

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.7 : Fri 13 Jun 2003 - 16:59:05 EEST