From: Alex Ferguson (abf@interzone.ucc.ie)
Date: Mon 23 Jun 1997 - 02:02:19 EEST
Nick Brooke:
> I suggest we redefine the solipsistic view (that
> each Gloranthan creates his own personal and valid mythic reality) as the
> "solipsist" position, to avoid future confusion.
See my now notorious scale, which anticipates this very question:
#5, Solipstistic Subjectivism. I was carefully vague enough to
include the "each cult..." version of the above in the same category,
though.
Jane Williams:
> Do you know someone who still sells [KoS] then?
I don't -- which is all the more reason to buy it fast, if you see it.
On the other tentacle, it's theoretically a lot more likely to see a
reprint than most of the other contents of the pile next to me --
GoG, TG, TP, ES, G:G, ES... <flicks away a sentimental tear>
> > I hesitate to drag too many things with such shamelessly Scottish
> > connotations into Sartar, as a lot of them are rather wildly anachronistic
> > for any plausible Orlanthi-Celt analogue.
> Also, Sartar is not a direct Celt/Scot analogue, any more than it is a
> direct Viking analogue.
That was pretty much my (entire) point. The "official" Celtic
correspondance is supposed to be more 3rd century than 13th (never
mind 18th -- shoot the man who said that, even in jest). Greg's also
compared Sartarites to early Saxons (gah!), as much as Celts and
Nordics.
> > Brother Dog's prediliction for tartan would be a case in point
> Tartan? TARTAN???? You are joking, aren't you?
Nope, though _he_ may be. See various bits of Barking Art, including
> Some Sartarite clan could always have blue sheep, for instance.
about two Tales covers. I suppose extensive forensic analysis would
be required to see if we could excuse it as "pre-tartan plaid".
(In case anyone's perplexed by this exchange, the point is that
"clan tartans", and indeed the modern style of kilt, are basically
Victorian inventions, out of very nearly (titter) whole cloth.)
Presumably an Inora-worshipping clan...
> >(especially if you don't think Italian tomatoes count as "traditional").
> Something that's only been around for four centuries at most is hardly
> traditional.
Well, it's all relative, innit? If the EU bring in a Directive
defining this as the basis of legitimate use of the term, more than
Dolmio is going to be in serious trouble. It'd certainly put Tory
MP's out of business in their use of the term, though in this case,
I'd consider kicking a person when he's down to be wholly moral
(and good aikido too, so long as you remember to Project Ki whilst
doing it).
Klyfix asks tentatively:
> By the way, at the risk of my being horrified, what _is_ black pudding?
As previously described, the key ingredient is congealed blood. See
I'm sure _someone_ in Glorantha is brave enough to eat this; at one
Original recipe,
the classic Goodies episode on "Ecky Thump" for details of martial
art involving same. One can tell what part of the British Isles one
is in by this element of the Traditional (sic) English/Scottish/Irish
breakfast -- in addition to the standard items of congealing cholesterol,
if there's white pudding or haggis you're in Scotland, whereas if
the black pud is ostensibly from Clonakilty, you've gone dangerously
war west.
point, I theorised that southern coastal Heortland had a dish involving
pig's blood and pickled fish, thereby combining the worst elements
of Prettanic and Nordic cuisine, but I later decided that was going a
tad too far.
Alex.
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