From: Peter Metcalfe (phm30@student.canterbury.ac.nz)
Date: Sat 05 Jul 1997 - 07:11:20 EEST
Alex Ferguson:
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AJ>> BTW, in all this, "how does a guy like the Pharaoh keep from
>> floating off to the Hero-Plane" hoopla, doesn't anyone wonder about the
>> Only Old One?
>Easy one; the OOO is actually an Office, not a single person, if I
>recall correctly.
Denied according to the writers of the Broken Council freefrom.
Since his material body was destroyed, I think that the OOO (if
he returns) would adopt a policy similar to the pharaoh.
>(I don't
>think Lord General of Death is _really_ a permanent position, living in
>an underground Lead Pentagon of Blood in between manifestations, though
>I'm always open to wacky elaborations of this or other theories.)
Given the association of Arkat with Zorak Zoran (which is not
infuriatingly not described in either of the official cult
writeups), I'm assuming that the Lord General of Death is
an Arkati who knows a spell that allows him to moblize the
Legions of Death (much like Arkat did with the Ebon Net of
All Hooks). Or perhaps the LGoD is trying to recover this
spell which was lost in the Great Fire of Clarity. Or even
he is busy casting it at the moment...
>> Upon reflection, I think that the Uz Arkati of Ralios use human
>> style sorcerer whereas the Uz Arkati of elsewhere (save for the
>> Mistress Race) use the divinized sorcery.
>This may well be true, though in Ralios there's less need for Arkat
>as a "focus" of a sorcery cult at all, so (human-style) Uz sorcerers
>in Ralios may pay lip-service to Arkat, or in some cases not even that.
I think that human-style sorcery is normally impossible for the Uz
to learn (something of the like is implied in the Birth of Arkat
Kingtroll) and that it requires some special initiation to use.
Perhaps they tear the initiate to pieces and install some human
organs in him? Given the secret society overtones, this would be
a variation of the intiation by terror.
Stephen Martin:
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>As far as I gather from GRoY and talks with Greg, the Sun alwasy rises
>due east and sets due west. And, since Glorantha is a lozenge, not a
>globe, day and night lengths should not vary at all in different places
>in Glorantha.
This IMO is the wrong way to go about decisions about what Glorantha
is like. Having easily obtainable facts which can solidly prove
that Glorantha is either a lozenge or a globe or that crystal
spheres exist is wrongheaded IMO. The multiple crystal spheres
(which BTW was a shortlived idea of Johannes Kepler and not a
classical one) would only be known by the Lunars. Other cultures
would believe that Glorantha itself moves (and perhaps attribute it
to the seasonal motion of Sramak's river or some other force). There
shouldn't be an easy answer to shut the likes of Columbus Mercator up
and even the best proofs should still leave some room for doubt.
FWIW I believe that the Outer Atomic Explorers thought the world was
a globe and it was the scriptural literalists among the God Learners
who returned the West to orthodoxy with the lozenge.
- --Peter Metcalfe
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