From: Andrew Joelson (joelsona@cpdmfg.cig.mot.com)
Date: Mon 07 Jul 1997 - 15:31:27 EEST
Me:
>> BTW, in all this, "how does a guy like the Pharaoh keep from
>> floating off to the Hero-Plane" hoopla, doesn't anyone wonder about the
>> Only Old One?
Alex:
> Easy one; the OOO is actually an Office, not a single person, if I
> recall correctly.
Could you please explain where this comes from? It's certainly
the first I've heard of it. It doesn't fit the rule of common sense,
though; if then OOO was an office, then Belintar would have become OOO
rather than Pharoah. (And don't say that you have to be a troll to be
OOO, it has been proven by HQ that the OOO is a troll and that he isn't
a troll. _Both_ HQs have been performed.) (Besides, everybody knows
that Sandy Petersen is the OOO, :-))
Michael Cule:
> Well, yes. But would you want an afterlife in which you spent
> eternity doing the same things over and over and never being
> properly aware that you're trapped in a loop.....
If you're not aware that you're in a loop, what's the problem?
> (And since we've been touching on exceptions let's ask how Sir
Sir Ethilrist is one of the typical examples given of a self-
Immortality, a place amongst the gods, the worship of right-thinking
people everywhere... sounds good to me, from a bronze-age point of view.
And the bit about being stuck in a loop isn't correct, that's not how
Time operates/fails to operate on the God-Plane.
> Ethilrist manages to avoid this fate.)
centered Hero (Harrek is the other). He isn't interested in Questing
to help his community, he's just interested in helping himself. His
community consists mostly of his followers in his White and Black Horse
Troops, and the veterans/farmers tilling the land near Muse Roost.
Perhaps Sir Ethilrist is the example of a Hero who can 'just
say no'; he got what he wanted from HQ's and stopped.
Martin Laurie:
> A star is a focus.
I don't see why a star couldn't be used this way, but I don't
> Basically its an incredibly powerful magical ritual open to
believe that is what it's there for. The creation of a star, and the
acheiving of immortality/ceasing of aging are the two most commonly
recognised marks of someone who has become a Hero. The star isn't
necessary for worship; Sir Ethilrist had a cult of people long before
he setlled down & built Muse Roost; his Black horse Troop, who followed
his (Hero)path and gained demon steeds.
Nah, Arkat was never a sun/sky type and he had/has three.
A star is the place where a Hero retires to, when he leaves the Mundane
World. But it isn't a prison if you still have Free Will or whatever.
Please note that this fits in with the fact (?) that Uz Heros/
Heroines have 'stars' that appear in the sky of Wonderhome....
Andrew
"The Muse struck me the other day, but I am recovering nicely"
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