From: Andrew Joelson (joelsona@cpdmfg.cig.mot.com)
Date: Mon 21 Jul 1997 - 19:32:53 EEST
V.S. Greene:
> I believe "officiallly" the God Learners were not Illuminates.
> Unofficially, I would think that some of them would most certainly
> have learned about illumination and its advantages and acheived it.....
This turns out to be inaccurate. Illumination is a mystic/
philosphical mindset that is achieved by Deists. The GLs were
Malkionists; believers in the Invisible God. They thought that all
Deist's Gods were just demons and/or whopping big spirits. The GL/
Malkioni mindset is not one that produces Illumination. The GLs
used Runic Vision/Rune Sight/whatever they called it. Both Greg
and sandy have been quite specific about these not being the same thing.
(Sidebar: please remember that the powergamers all want
to be Illuminated so that they can ignore cult restrictions, break
geases, etc. To a Malkioni, this is all garbage in the first place.)
> Keep in mind that Sandy has said the God Learners changed
> something about Glorantha and destroyed their "secret".
The GLs didn't change the world, the world changed and ruined
them. Many of their magical techniques stopped working, and the
Secret of the GodLearners was wiped out by the Gift Carriers of the
Sending Gods; who slaughtered everyone they could find that knew the
secret. Jrustlia (their home island) sank beneath the waves.
> ...where else would all this post-Second Age material often condemned
> as God Learner-ish come from?
Condemning something as GodLearnerish is the same thing as
condemning something as racialy-biased in the USA; it's a slander that
carries a lot of stigma, ragardless of whether its true or not.
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"Contradiction? No, I always did tend to kill chaos creatures anyway" /
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