From: Stephen Martin (ilium@juno.com)
Date: Mon 22 Sep 1997 - 01:12:43 EEST
Responses to Jane Williams:
>1) Balance of elements: several similar systems exist. This says that
>the human body consists of a number elements (four is average), and that
>these have to be kept in balance for health. All illnesses are described
>in terms of imbalance (a cold is excess water, for instance), and herbs
>containing the approppriate element are presceibed to correct the
>imbalance. So for a cold, you add the opposite element: fire. Ginger,
>cloves, and so on. (Yes, this is oversimplified!) Quite how you assign
>plants to elements is down to "intuition": assigning them so that they
>work is a good move.
>Of these three theories, the elemental one seems to me to be unlikely to
>be used by Gloranthans where their society is tied to one element: Air,
>Sun, etc. The idea of balance between the elements being desirable just
>doesn't fit.
Actually, I think Jane is wrong here. Greg seems to favor a view that has
the Orlanthi believing they are made of (originally) equal parts of each
of the five elements. Thus, the primal humans were equally part Air,
Earth, Fire, Water, and Darkness. After all, the first humans were made
by all gods in the Golden Age, before the Gods War.
This is explicit in one playtest Greg ran a few years ago.
Later human creatures were formed because different deities and events
affected the balance of elements. Trolls obviously have a huge amount of
darkness in them, whereas Orlanthi have a slight majority of Air, and so
favor the Air Gods.
I think a similar procedure can be seen in Dara Happa, where the first
humans were formed from a mix of Fire, Heat, Light/Intelligence, Earth,
Shadows, and Emotion. Later humans have an imbalance of these
ingredients. The Dara Happans are either balanced or have more Light.
Orlanthi obviously have too much of their Beast/Emotion nature, and
probably have a bigger Shadow true.
A lot of this theory depends on what you consider to be the "elements" of
the creation. I would love to see Kralori and Doraddi explanations
following this theory.
>Astrology: sounds like a possibility, but I'm not sufficiently familiar
>with Gloranthan astronomy or astrology to comment. Do we have a Zodiac
to
>play with?
For non-healing reasons, I have been wondering about this for quite some
time. Because the constellations in Glorantha do not precess in the same
way that terrestrial ones do, it is harder to determine. That is, they do
precess over the course of a year, but not over the course of centuries.
How long does it take for them to precess on earth -- is it enough to
make a difference?
Also, the movement of the Gloranthan planets is more regular than that of
those on earth, and that hampers any development of an astrological
system. Unless things change, pretty much everything would have to hinge
on the Southpath planets, since the Sunpath planets repeat their exact
pattern every 62 years. Entekos is the reason for this -- without her,
they would repeat every 2 years. So she might be important as well.
I suppose the place where Lightfore rises on certain days of the year
might be the basic determinant of a "zodiac", though there would be a lot
of other factors to take into account.
Anybody got any views on some of the things to consider here? I don't
know enough about terrestrial astrology to start thinking much about a
Gloranthan system.
Responding to Chris Bell on a New Subject
Yes, there is a contradiction in the concept of Humakt as being
introduced to Dragon Pass by Arkat, and of the Humakti entering Prax in
35 S.T.
Here is one possibility. What was known in the First Age to most Orlanthi
was a subcult of Orlanth which worshiped him as the wielder of death.
Note in _King of Sartar_ that one myth says that Orlanth's sword is named
"Humakt". This is very important, IMO.
Thus, the people who invaded Prax were not Humakti, per se, they were
Orlanthi "soldiers", who worshiped the subcult of Orlanth's Sword.
When Arkat came to Dragon Pass, he was already an initiate of the Ralian
storm god, Humath, Lord of Storms and Lord of Swords. For whatever
reason, he forced his god to change, to lose his Storm Aspect in favor of
becoming solely the Lord of Swords. This cult, of Humakt, eventually (and
probably quite quickly) supplanted and absorbed the Orlanth Death-Wielder
subcult, so that now there is Orlanth, with no Death powers (not even
Trusword, note) and Humakt, with absolutely no Storm Powers. Thus, the
myth of Humakt's severing all ties with the Air Gods originates in
Arkat's severing of his ties with the Storm Gods, to focus exclusively on
the best tool against Gbaji, the Unbreakable Sword. Think about it: in
this context, the Unbreakable Sword itself _is_ Humakt.
Does this work for you, Chris? Does it work for anyone else?
Stephen Martin
ilium@juno.com
- -----------------------------------------------
The Book of Drastic Resolutions
drastic@juno.com
------------------------------
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.7 : Fri 13 Jun 2003 - 21:01:29 EEST