From: peter metcalfe (metcalph@voyager.co.nz)
Date: Sun 14 Dec 1997 - 07:01:14 EET
Oliver Bernuetz:
On the Agimori:
(I had pointed out that Agimori as hunter-gatherers had quite
>That's all very true but free time doesn't necessarily equal the sort of
ample time for drill practice).
>culture and mindset you need to drill in unit in order to enable you to
>operate as a unit armed with 16-18 foot poles.
I'm just pointing out that they _could_ have had the culture and
mindset, just as the Esrolians can have a fighting matriachy even
though we have no examples of such in earth history. Most hunter
- -gatherers AFAIK tend to hang out in remote regions after being
kicked around by pastoralists and/or sedentaries. The Agimori are
anomalous in that they've been hanging around in Prax since the
Dawn.
>>The disadvantage of a hunter-gatherer
>>lifestyle is that it can support _less_ people per unit area (tenfold
>>is a good rule of the thumb).
>- -means that they'd have real trouble banding together in the
>hundreds to practice together to make effective pike phalanxes.
Unless they went to an oasis or somesuch, I suppose. This is
what the Doraddi (although they don't use pike phalanxes) in
Jolar do. I do think the Men-and-a-half phalanxes/impis are
very static and they can't march in formation. They're only
useful against charging nomadic cavalry and skirmishers are
another matter. Even then, I think the Agimori are braindead
to use the Impis against the Rhino Riders.
Duncan Rowlands:
>Dave Pearton: Are you sure you mean Zulu Dawn and not Zulu? The battle
>of Rorke's Drift is in Zulu where Michael Caine and a Welsh miners choir
>beat off the pointy stick brigade, Zulu Dawn features the battle the day
>before where the Brits got out arses kicked.
Dave is indeed correct about the movie being 'Zulu Dawn' as the original
comment 'the Zulus could barely win against rifled infantrymen fumbling
with screwdrivers' is a reference to why the british were defeated
(the ammo was stored in boxes which were screwed shut). Although
a victory, it was nevertheless pyrrhic. Unfortunately for Dave, I have
watched neither film but picked up my gloss from 'The Washing of the
Spears'.
- --Peter 'Does Princess Di's death in Paris make up for the Prince
Imperial's death in the Zulu Wars?' Metcalfe
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