Re: Newbie Questions; Mythic Origins; Dormal

From: Nick Brooke (Nick_Brooke@compuserve.com)
Date: Mon 29 Dec 1997 - 12:23:15 EET


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"Gazza" writes:

> I'm about to start a new Glorantha campaign with players
> that know even less than I do - gotta start somewhere, I
> figure.

Congratulations, best of luck, well done expanding the flock,
and if you have any more questions (or comments, etc.) please
go ahead and post them!

> CRITICAL RESISTANT ARMOUR

This seems to be an invention of Steve Maurer's. One of the
good things about the RuneQuest combat system is that nobody
is immortal. A good, hefty Critical can bring down most any
opponent. (The famous Rurik Runespear, of RQ2 rules-example
fame, died when a Trollkin critically impaled him -- twice).
But if you're a real powergamer, you need to be certain that
your carefully-boosted character won't suffer the same fate
as lesser mortals, hence "critical-resistant armour".

(Me, I say they're wusses. I've gone the whole hog and now
have damage-proof *skin*).

In all my years of playing RQ, I can't recall ever coming
across anything quite this gross. I'd recommend you don't
hand it out to newbie players -- and, if you do, make sure
there's a convenient pot of acid nearby. (See recent posts).

Jeff Richard, ever at my side, says that armour which *only*
resists against criticals would be rather more amusing...

> LOCATING OOP STUFF

There's a Glorantha-Con in Melbourne, Australia next month.
If it's possible for you to get there, there's likely to be
OOP stuff in the auction. I'm sure there will be publicity
announcements here shortly (BIG HINT to Con organisers!).

You can also find good stuff on Internet auctions, though
I have no knowledge of how these work. Ask around, or use
a search-engine on the product you're after and see how
many "hits" are in frp.marketplace, etc. (Just a thought).

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Peter Metcalfe writes, perceptively:

> There are many things that get dropped out of people's
> mythologies and many things that get added in.

Thank'ee for the examples, good clean fun. A couple more
of my favourites:

Britain was colonised by Trojans escaping from the Fall of
Troy (by way of Italy). Their leader was Brutus the Trojan,
who named the island (previously inhabited by giants) after
himself. Ireland was settled, I believe, by Spanish Scythians,
which may explain the prevailing mood of animosity...

Anglo-Saxon kings in Dark Age England used to have mythical
genealogies tracing their descent, by way of migratory and
founding heroes, to the god Votan. When they were converted
to Christianity, they kept these -- never know when it might
come in handy, always good to keep your options open -- but
had their monks add extra pages showing their parallel
descent from Adam and Eve (by way of prominent OT figures).

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Heikki Raappana

> At the Closing of the seas, no man was able to sail out to
> open seas, before Dormal the Sailor came with his Open Seas
> sorcery spell. Thus came the Opening of the Seas. Am I right?

Absolutely.

> As far as I know, no other cult teaches "Open Seas" ceremony,
> but do they anyway?

They do. Conveniently, the "Open Seas" ceremony is sorcerous
in origin, meaning that it's a technique and not a belief. You
don't have to *like* Dormal, or belong to his cult or culture,
to be able to perfectly replicate what he did and get all the
appropriate benefits. The knowledge of the Open Seas ceremony
has spread far beyond the "Cult of Dormal", which itself does
not include *all* people who have heard of or pay respect to
the Sailor -- Westerners who see him as a Saint are unlikely
to share formal worship ceremonies with ignorant pagans who
venerate their patron as a "god"! I know sailors are open-
minded -- cf. "Strangers in Prax" for a *fine* essay on their
dfferent ways -- but I imagine even they might demur at this.

> Is Dormal's "Open Seas" the only way to penetrate the Closing,
> how do the other cults and other-god-than-Dormal-worshipping
> sailors do it?

They (possibly at some remove) learned or stole the secret from
Dormal-worshipping (or Dormal-following) sailors. This does not
imply any special regard or reverence for Dormal. Everyone who
sails the open seas of Glorantha today must use these techniques.

> I have understood that the Closing was some kind of powerful
> magic of sorcerers of Brithos Island, and was aimed against
> the Godlearners. Does the Closing affect the seaborn cultures
> such as Waertagi too, or was it just to keep the land-dwellers
> out from the open seas?

The Closing certainly seems to have affected the Waertagi --
although the date given for their final sinking of Jrustela in
the "Glorantha Book" is after the inception of the Closing, it
is IMO more likely that this represents a suicidal, superhuman
effort rather than a natural immunity. Orthodox Gloranthan

sources (e.g: "Spirits of the Sea" in Wyrms Footprints) say
the Waertagi were vulnerable, and suggest that there is a not
inconsiderable degree of animosity between the Waertagi and
their Brithini half-siblings as a result of this spell.

While the Waertagi certainly *can* sail the seas now, and
*couldn't* (or weren't seen to do so) during the Closing, that
may be because they spent the intervening years of the Third
Age sailing the seas of Hell, after flushing their Dragonships
down Magasta's Great Toilet.

> Was the Closing as powerful in Pamaltela and in Eastern Islands
> (they are pretty far from Brithos) as it was in Genertela?

Yes. The Waertagi on the Edrenlin Isles (in the far south-east
ocean) were landlocked throughout the Closing. I think this is

definitive. The East Isles themselves were not quite so badly
hit by the Closing, but it certainly made life more difficult
for them. More on this in the next issue of "Tales" (early next
year).

Thank you for estimating the power of the Closing as a Sorcery
spell -- in fact, the Closing is still in effect (i.e. duration
of "Permanent" or as near as dammit), which is why sailors still
have to use Dormal's ritual to "side-step" its effects. This
makes it an Enchantment with a wholly ungodly expenditure of
permanent POW... :-)

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Nick
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PS: we had a Minotaur Storm Bull too... :-(

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