Re: August Dragon & other Kraloreliana

From: Nils Weinander (
Date: Thu 29 Jan 1998 - 23:54:59 EET

> An only marginally related question -- does anyone think that the August
> Dragon of Kralorela is either a previous emperor in retirement, or a
> future emperor waiting for his turn?

I think he is neither, but rather a being who turned
down being emperor, but progressed to dragonhood
anyway. Maybe, it is even older than the dragon
emperors. A wild idea just occurred to me. What if
the August Dragon is Aptanace the Sage turned into
a dragon?

> ** Despite the reckless practices of certain incautious people on the
> Digest, it is established religious procedure in Kralorela, and is really
> only proper and respectful, to always include the full honorific to the
> name of Emperor Shang-hsa-may-his-name-be-cursed. Abbreviations of this
> title are insufficient to ward off his dangerous influence, and result in
> harm to the Empire and our great Emperor
> Godunya-may-his-skin-become-ever-golder. Y'all have been warned!

Once you have seen past the Paradox of the Void, you
will know beyond knowing that honorifics are just
added layers of the illusion. But you are right that
they may be educational to the un-enlightened.


>I am not sure that there is any way for you, me, or anyone to know this.
>Since we know nothing at all about 1st Age Kralorela, how can you say
>that the current 3rd Age version is based on the FDR stuff?

>Secondly the idea that the Exarchs after the War in Heaven turned
>the clock back to arrive at first age style government seems to me

For once I agree with Peter about Kralorela, but then
again I agree with Stephen as well :-/ I think there is
an important distinction to make here. I agree with Peter
that government and organization in the third age
probably are a lot more like those of the FDR than of
whatever was done in the first age.

However, it is very unlikely that culture and magic
have changed much. The Kralorelan way is to disarm
foreign influences by assimilating them and having
them dissipate in the huge mass of the native stuff.
I'm loathe to bring up real world parallells, but look
at Chine: there were the mongol and manchu dynasties,
but the culture and religion remained. The invaders

were quickly taken into the chinese fold. Even the
communist culture revolution proved unsuccessful.

Genertela Book, p. 22:

        "The civilization is ancient, based upon
        Golden Age customs long lost to the rest
        of the world."


>If Godunya had existed for much longer than we suppose, perhaps
>throughout the entire time of the FDR, it could be that the False Dragon
>Emperor (FDE) gained power only by "imitation" of the hidden True Dragon
>Emperor (TDE).
- -..

>Why do we need to suppose all this? All this does is perpetuate
>the myth of that the Old Ways are All Good and the Ways of the
>Invaders are All Bad.
- -..
>Why should Kralorela somehow be ultimately pure and
>untainted by the foreigners? Wouldn't it be more _interesting_ if
>people knew but rarely discussed the possibility that the Dragon's
>Awakening Shudder was caused by the Old NDR Emperor passing on having
>ruled wisely for many years.

Wouldn't it be more interesting if there _was_ one
exception, one nation where tradition really _is_

Leaving Kralorela, I have now updated one of my East
Isles web pages with pictures (photos!) of the
Korolan Isles:

Nils Weinander | Everything is dust in the wind |


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