From: Jane Williams (jane@williams.nildram.co.uk)
Date: Tue 29 Sep 1998 - 00:06:14 EEST
Lots of nice ideas coming out there.
Bows: while the point has been made that Elmal and Orlanth don't get
on all that well, I'm not convinced that Elmal and Vinga get on any
better. Definitely not enough to give Vingans more access to bows
than male Orlanthi, anyway.
I did like the idea, though, that Orlanth's defeat of Yelm led Orlanthi to
see a bow as a quick way of losing a fight. Mythically sound but
practically stupid: yep, that's the Orlanthi! The Vingans wouldn't be any
brighter, but Vinga never had such a resounding victory over a bow-
wielding opponent, either. (Unless someone writes one. Please don't.)
Thomas notes in passing that the RoC Orlanth write-up gives him
nothing from Elmal. Unless I'm misremembering my RQ history, Elmal
hadn't been invented when RoC was written, had he? Any old-timers
want to correct me? Both events were before I was into Glorantha, so
I'm not too sure of the order.
And my apologies to Joerg. How could I possibly have forgotten
Jorganos the Archer? Quite how we have Jorganos (a human hero)
teaching archery to Vinga (a goddess) without admitting that Vinga
was also a human hero, and contemporary with/younger than
Jorganos, is another matter, but one I can have a lot of fun playing
with. Where did Jorganos get his weapon? Take that story, ascribe his
feats to Vinga, and there you go. Very unfair on Jorganos' legend, but
that's myths for you.
Similarly ascribing Vinga's skill with horses to the Red Women
learning from their father Berenneth will mean back-dating the tuition a
bit. Vinga must have learnt it from whoever Berenneth worshipped:
Elmal? Not Hyalor, as he again is a hero, not a deity and can't
possibly have taught things to a goddess. Never mind reality, feel the
drama!
Jane Williams jane@williams.nildram.co.uk
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~janewill/gloranth/
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