From: Alex Ferguson (abf@cs.ucc.ie)
Date: Sun 04 Oct 1998 - 04:26:28 EEST
Jane Williams:
> If I understand all these technical discussions, one of the problems
> being put forward for Orlanthi using bows is the effect of the wind.
> [...] But in Glorantha - remind me, who's the god of the wind?
Doesn't that rather confirm the point? ("Hoi, Orlanth! Hold it
down a bit while I use this 'ere solar weapon, that's right, the
one ole Yelm tried his luck with on yerself, to shoot my next door
neighbour." "***WHHHHHHHAAAAAAATTTTTTT?????!!!!!***")
Maybe this is the _real_ reason those sneaky elves are so narked off
with the Orlanthi. A right pain in the arse while you're trying to
kill someone with a "cowardly arrow" from a distance, though surely
much less of a problem for mass volleys of arrow. ("Thataway.")
> How do you think the Orlanthi version of SureShot, Speedart etc. work?
I scarely dare imagine, through chronic apprehension of being
"Hero Wars"'d.
Steve Lieb isn't impressed by claims that England might have the odd wind
or two:
> You're talking to someone living on the great plains. Bah with your poofy
> breezes. Anyway, the campaign season is SUMMER. If it's windy in October,
> that's less significant.
Your original point suggested what a problem a 10mph wind might be to
an archer, so presumably your comment about England and France being
"calm" was to be read in that context. If you think such winds are
rare in northern europe, I can only refer you to the location of the
north atlantic depression track. (Appropriately named, in more ways
than one.)
Not many hurricanes, admittedly. One need only worry about these when a
> Additionally, I'd point out that Wales was
I don't think many decisive archery engagements have been fought inside
BBC "meteorologist" tells one that there's no danger of that happening
at all.
> heavily forested as was most of England (at that time) - going back to my
> point about "sheltered" conditions...
forests, Robin Hood notwithstanding.
Anyway, before I beat Steve over the head with any more quibbles, I
think my basic point is that I feel very uneasy about arguments that
say, to unduly paraphrase, that well, maybe the RW was like that, but
_of course_ Glorantha is completely different, due to some cod magical
effect, _utterly_ different ambient conditions, or whathaveyou.
Sure, Glorantha is Made Up, but it's made up out of people's heads,
and FGS and most of the Digest haven't been living on _Mars_ for the
last 32 years. (I hope.)
> Heh. I would have said it had more to do with humidity - that's the real
> "feel" of cold. You have a Russia (say 30% RH) with -10C and an England of
> 0C (with 90%+ RH), England feels MUCH colder.
I don't think that's true (either the sample numbers, or the perceived
> Of course, you *could* check out my Gloranthan weather (still in alpha)
No you won't. ;-) I'd suggest, rather:
http://www.remotepoint.com/~styopa/Glorantha.htm
Slainte,
effect), though certainly actual _rain_ (now with free added wind, most
likely), fog (freezing or otherwise), etc will make you feel a lot more
miserable. (As will mortgage repayments and Monday mornings, granted.)
> program (plug, plug) and get the *real* scoop on gloranthan weather!!!
> find it at: http://www.remotepoint.com/styopa/glorantha.htm
Alex.
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