From: Peter Metcalfe (metcalph@voyager.co.nz)
Date: Mon 25 Jan 1999 - 02:48:23 EET
Keith Nellist:
>The other good link with Atyar and Kralorela (apart from the description in
>Lords of Terror of it as a Kralori cult of occult thieves that spread west in
>the first age (although Treack Markhor only hid the skull there in the Second
>Age)
If he was from Dragon Pass, Treack Markhor could have reached Kralorela
in the Dawn Age. Contact was made before the Sun Stop. IMO I think
Treack Markhor was a local renegade sage who was thought to be a priest
of Lhankor Mhy by the Orlanthi. This is not new, Irrippi Ontor is also
said to a Grey Sage even though the Pelorians know him as an Astrologer
and a Carmanian Vizier.
The God Learners were not Brainlooters. That is some mysterious
organization who were around in sixth century Dragon Pass. The
God Learners didn't get organized until the middle of next century.
Secondly the New Dragons Ring 'stopped being God Learners'.
>Atyar is an
>excellent Godlearner cult; Consume Minds, Devour Book, Voice of Atyar
>all help plunder other peoples secrets.
The operative word here is 'cult'. The God Learners did not join
cults to worship Gods but subscribed instead to numerous schools,
philosophies and Wizardly orders. If they came into contact with
spirits like Atyar, it would have been most probably through
demonology and other methods. Since Atyar is a worshipped entity,
his cult demonstrably was _not_ joined by God Learners.
>I would go as far as making Treak Markhor a powerful official in the New
>Dragon Ring, perhaps ruling a city, or province, as an Atyari 'Exarch'.
Unfortunately the Imperial Age is when the Atyaris are best understood
to have met up with the Thanics after being expelled from Kralorela.
And the New Dragons Ring were in control throughout most of that age.
If the Brainlooters are headhunting thanics suddenly empowered by
Kralori Atyar magics, then the Atyari were expelled before the New
Dragons Ring took over and so Treack Markhor cannot have been an
exarch.
- --Peter Metcalfe
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