From: Alex Ferguson (abf@yeats.ucc.ie)
Date: Tue 13 Apr 1999 - 21:54:35 EEST
Chris Bell's editting gets better: that was a mere 10K, and only
2/3 quotes...
> I'm sparse on the info about the Wild Healer of the Rockwoods, but I do
> know there are Chaos cleansing rites that enable Broos and some other
> creatures to be cleansed without Illumination (such as the Cleansed One
> subcult of Zola Fel.)
I wouldn't bet on the 'without Illumination' part. (It might be
that it involves 'illumination' rather than 'Nysalorean capital-I
Illumination', though.) I don't think that the Wild Healer is Cleansed,
nor do I think that it's strictly necessary to be non-chaotic to
worship Humakt. (Which is not to say All Chaos Monsters Welcome,
down at the local Lismelder temple.)
> certain Tribal kings will only allow Humakti Weaponthanes to guard them,
> as due to their lack of Clan ties but tribal loyalties means they will
> be above the fray of intertribal politics
It's the _purpose_ of Tribal kings's huscarls to be in the middle of
the fray of intertribal tribal politics, preferably with their foot
on someone's neck. ;-) (Yes, I know smart-arse comment, presumably
intratribal/interclan is meant.)
> >On whether 'all evil gods'/Malia are/needs be Chaotic:
> Without Malia's aid, the birth of Wakboth would have been impossible.
Without Western aid, Iraq might have lost the Iranian war. Does that
make Ronnie Reagan a Ba'athist?
> For example, her followers can actively Initiate into Primal Chaos.
UIRI, I believe you mean that her followers as Associates of Primal Chaos,
in Ye Olde RQ Speake.
> Although the following cultures that I know of have Chaos Myths...
[list]
I'll grant you a broad similarity between the Theyalan, Praxian, and
Doraddi concepts of Chaos, at least insofar as I understand them.
> Malkioni (demons during the Ice age)
Sure, everyone has 'demons' of some sort or another, but the question
is, how isomorphic to the Theyalan concept (or some broader aggregate
concept) of 'Chaos'. For example, trolls are 'newts are 'Krjalki',
whereas Tapping sorcerors are not, whereas an Orlanthi would label
them vice-versa, chaoswise. The Malkioni also have a concept of the
Devil. Is this related strongly to either Theyalan Chaos, or the
Theyalan Devil? Discuss. ;-)
Other Ducks to be testing: an Illuminate/'enlightened' individual;
Huan To; Orlanth (!). (I can't think of any good discriminating
examples for the Naturalist cases (esp. Prax and Pamaltela); suggestions
gratefully accepted!)
> Question - Do the Pre-Lunar (or modern) Pentans have Chaos myths, or would
> Chaos monsters simply be 'demons'?
How do you propose to define/discern the distinction?
Slan libh,
Alex.
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