Re: Humakti and Honor

From: Joerg Baumgartner (
Date: Wed 11 Aug 1999 - 02:37:46 EEST

Peter Metcalfe
>>> Humakt is a death god, not a god of honor.

David Dunham
>>Of his two defining acts, one involved death, the other honor.

> For some weird definition of honor.

As weird as any definition of honor.

>>"Humakt idealises the honourable intentions and beliefs of the air
>>gods with a single-minded intention and direction.

> Air gods have honorable intentions and beliefs?

Yes. Starting with Umath, whose words on KoS p.57 start with "Am I to
have no honor?"

> Thinking of
> such storm gods like Storm Bull (who let down Genert by not
> appearing at an important battle),

Aiding Tada in Prax instead?

> Valind, Vadrus and Ragnaglar,
> only an Eurmali would describe their conduct as honorable.

Vadrus and his kin (presuming Ragnaglar is identical to Vadrus) are the
Bad Wind.

> Orlanth is honorable but he is not typical of air gods.

Neither is Humakt, so I fail to see why this couldn't be true. Any son
of Umath is atypical in a certain way - that's their raison d'etre.

>>Honour to Humakt
>>is like air to the other storm gods, and as long as honour and storm
>>raged together than Humakt was foremost among the fighters of his
>>family." [Wyrms Footprints p.69]

> Bunkum says I as should anybody with the faintest understanding of
> the Storm Age.

I tend to agree. However, Humakt has been changed towards the end of the
Dawn Age, due to Arkat's influence. (Just like Zorak Zoran changed from
the cunning warlord to the brute dealer of death - also thanks to
Arkat's meddling...)

> A much better definition of Humakt in Orlanthi
> society, according to KoS p51, is that he is the God of "War and
> Death, and of all Endings. He even severed his family connections
> with the Storm Tribe to maintain his purity of purpose".

That puts him into the same position in Orlanth's entourage as Chalana
Arroy, Issaries, or Lhankor Mhy.

Humakt is the god of oaths in Orlanthi society (short of swearing on the
Styx). This is neither death nor endings.


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