From: TERRA INCOGNITA (inarsus-ferilt-z@mrg.biglobe.ne.jp)
Date: Wed 02 Feb 2000 - 00:55:23 EET
Hypocrisy of Seneca?
Stoics should not be loansharks.
Joseph Campbell said about the three categories of Religious system: logical
(shamanistic), practical (theological) and mystical approach: We can append
Scientific Approach in glorantha as sorcerous approach (brithini kingdom of
logic, mostali)
Glorantha is made for Role Playing Game
Hegel concept puts up two, these and antithese:
In Artherian Legend, (RW Snodal?)
but Gs's Current work has much Occult-religion-cultural
anthropological-taste work in Entekosiad and Eastern Isles High Gods myth,
who can utilize this putting on game-use?
"Mysticism" simply means "we cannot understand in usual condition.", if
mystical object
is "personality and ego dissolving into Cosmic Mind" , heroic attainment
will also dissolve into Gathering unconsciousness. who can use?
mystics are
1: having desire beyond our comprehension
2: acting beyond our understanding
3: making attitude to others who cannot grasp their object
if they are understandable, it is not mysticism. People without mandane
world shackle easily go to tricksterish act, and celtic metempsychosis will
melt down morality concept.
We can only appriciate its aroma. As Brithini Logic.
how both worked?
I think Malkionism have large similarity to Chrisianity, but both are not
same.
Malkionism always don't blame to desire returning to Mother Womb, (Kingdom
of Logic)
(So both Silver Empire and GL wanted to attack and conquest Brithos, and
failed.)
And Brithos was gone, there is no centre of Malkionism now.
RW christianity don't admit Human returning to Eden Garden, they are guilty.
Jerusalem?
European antimonical emotion to Jewish culture caused two existence of
Glorantha, Brithini and Vadeli.
Yes, he was God's loyal servant, he made reconstruction of Rome in Britain,
and drove pagan Saxons away.
No, he was Enemy of God, read more elder documents (or Bernard Cornwell), he
revered celtic Dragon and Cauldron.
Refer to Vormain and Lunar empire:
I think xenophobia has similarity to desire of expansion.
if you want perfect safety from outward, how can you do?
Many changes unintentionally occured
Once, Godlearner Rune can describe about Everything in practical term:
current Gregging about rune conception is large:
2nd RQ Edition uncompatible Rune existence
3rd RQ this uncompatibility dissolved
and in Hero Wars, God's association to Rune is limited to only one.
These Mystical God Concept are noted in last page of Enclosure #1
these listed gods of Lunar teaching are plainly lacked personality, but IMO,
these concept is usable for classification of Mystical other Gloranthan
gods who have more personality;
Vezkarvez: unknowable
Katalyo: ultimate knowable
Primoltus: light, cohesive power
Derita: darkness, dissolving power
Tareltara: meditation of light and darkness, revolving power
Urtium: dance of light and darkness
Ethelsora: Intercourse of light and darkness
Sedenya: mask of meditation, turner or change,
Personal List of Mystical Pantheon
Rashoran: (worldly?) illumination aspect, Vezkarvez aspect
of course, Minor aspect to Mystery connected to almost every Deities: (FREX,
IMO, draconism and illumination concept are both have mysticism nature: this
don't means two conditions associating each other, and its mystery is maybe
for only non-gloranthan game-users, for Dragon, Dragonism should be natural
and ordinary.
Dayzatar: Dara Happan Mystical God, Primoltus Aspect
Jernotius: West Peloria, Buddhism? In RW, Tareltara Aspect
Nysalor (and Arkat): (very Popular in West and Central Genertela)
illumination and Urtium (please think about Destruction which the two made)
aspect, Gbaji
Daruda: (Kralorela) humanistic draconism, light aspect of confucian in RW,
IMO, dragoness has Ethelsora Aspect for their lifeforce
Drolgard (and Vestikos): (Orlanthi) inhuman draconism, Ethelsora Aspect
NyangMao: (Kralorela) taoism? in RW, Derita Aspect for their Hermitness
Metsyla: (Old Vithelan Region) dark aspect of confucian? in RW, Primoltus
Aspect
Moon: (Old Vithela, North Peloria, South Pamaltela) very, very many names.
Current most popular name about this obscure entity is Rufelza of Lunar
Empire and Blue Streak, only it has Female aspect, Sedenya aspect
Mashunasan: (Now Eastern Isles) I don't have read my stock of Eastern
Mythology yet.
but I think he is Hermit rather than active Teacher.
Orlanth Lightbringer, Bijiif Yelm, Daliath, Subere, Celestial Court, Et
Cetera)
Guy Jobbins:
>would i be right in thinking that hsunchen martial arts styles would
>be like the 'animal styles' of chinese martial arts? if i remember
>right then martial arts like Hsing Yi Chuan (a style which
>incorporates 12 animals) were originally strongly
>shamanistic/animistic in their thinking. the practioner would
>conjure within them the spirit of the tiger, or whatever, and fight
>with that spirit. in his own mind he would take on the form and
>movement of a tiger, so his fingers would become as claws etc.
>Hsing Yi Chuan means 'Shape (Hsing) of Mind (Yi) Boxing(Chuan)'. Yi
>has a more specific meaning than just 'mind' - it refers to one's
>emotional mind, or one's belief. the training begins with study of
>the 'form' - or techniques of the art - and then as the form is
>perfected the elements of belief are incorporated. finally the
>belief overcomes the limits of technique and the practioner fights
>instinctively - with the spirit of the animal.
As you know,
Japanese Ideogram were imported from Chinese Ideogram
so the two are same in ancient age, and we still
hava easily understanding from reading rather than hearing in Chinese:
and Korean and Japanese phonogram are simplified form of Chinese Ideogram
(Japanese Kana, and Korean Han-Gwr), we don't use western alphabet in usual
terms. AFAIK, Shin-i-ken in Japanese pronunciation is one sect of Chinese
martial artist.
I can only say, Metaphor and animism is not same (similarity isn't same),
Egyptians revered Doghead god, Hippopotamus water-spirit. Pharaohs crowned
Vulture and Cobra, but this don't mean they understand their animal nature.
Civilized way is accumulation of social experience, if in past history Dog
means victory of weaknesses, it will become metaphor. If you know RW male
lion nature, you should not hunt in harim. Hsunchen culture perfectly
identified their animal nature in magical world.
Delecti Laboratory:
Chief, we can try to another approach to draconism:
how we can repair gap between Hsunchen shapeshifter (Arinsor Cursed telmoli,
Basmoli berserker, sofali, )
and Halfbeast (Zoo, later Beast Valley)?
some sample from Kralorelan New D Ring about Dragon Hsunchen
finally, we should attain the Hykim and Mikyu the two ancestral beast dragon
successful case : access to a variety of shapeshift magic which only one
series available to one race of Hsunchen:
>From Chimera and Composite Monsters
We can make true dragon
the two incompatible mythology,
in Kralorela primal animal entity is humane Wild Man before Allgiver,
but Hsunchens believes primal animal is Ancestral Dragon Mikyh
we can make missing ring about this theme.
Necromancy and Draconism : nextsubject, godlearner way is still useful for
out-EWF circle people.
I think exaggerated acceptance to Eastern cosmology to gloranthan scheme,
boiled Cauldron, Risky to runaway out of control.
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