From: Peter Metcalfe (metcalph@bigfoot.com)
Date: Thu 03 Feb 2000 - 14:13:09 EET
David Cake:
Me>>Is there a reason that you ignore the emperor and his exarchs and
> Well, if you take the Kraloris word for it. As they don't turn into
>>generals, (all of whom are dragons in their own right)?
>physical dragons, and we have only their word for it that they have dragons
>souls, that would seem to make it somewhat open to question.
Why _should_ we doubt the Kralori's word for it? After all, I don't
doubt that what the Lunars, the Malkioni or the Orlanthi say about
themselves.
>>Given that [Daruda] is depicted as "a human with the head, tail and
>>wings of a dragon" and
> Yeah, and for a while Moses was depicted with horns due to a
>mistranslation. It was an awful long time ago, too. I admitted they had a
>strong draconic motif anyway.
Given that this actually started off when you claimed that Daruda
didn't seem very draconic, I find this backpedalling to be rather
tiresome. FWIW Moses's horns may not be a mistranslation.
>>The Five Dragon Warriors do not follow the Path of Immanent Mastery.
>>They are as Darudists as you can get.
> Well, as some of the Five Dragon Warriors are alleged to be able to
>turn into draconic form, that would make the whole debate rather moot
>wouldn't it? One wonders why no one said at the start 'Darudan draconism,
>yeah, those guys over there turn into dragon form every now and then and
>they are Darudists'.
Because you had the idea that the only dragon magic worthy of
the name was actually turning into a dragon, thus those who don't
look draconic aren't. Darudism/Draconism is a lot bigger than
that.
> I'm still no closer to understanding what Darudism actually
>consists of, though. Its sort of draconic mysticism - except not mystic
>like the other mystics, and not draconic in a particularly obvious way
>(except the 5 Dragon Warriors), so what are we left with?
I can only refer you to "What the Dragon Emperor says" in Gods
of Glorantha and the "Dragon Pantheon" article up on glorantha.com.
- --Peter Metcalfe
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