Re: Sodomy and Rape

Date: Thu 02 Mar 2000 - 01:02:03 EET

>From: "Christoph Kohring" <>
>Subject: Re : The Glorantha Digest V7 #420

>Andrew E. Larsen wrote:
>>> 4. what is the view of bisexuality? of adult male homosexuality? of
>>> paedophilia?
>> Bisexuality and homosexuality among men are considered unnatural,
>> and outside the law of Waha. They are non-procreative and weaken the men
>> involved. Storm bulls in particular deride the practice and may sodomize
>> their captives to prove their dominance.
>I strongly object to that, way too broo-ish. It's not that broos are
>sodomites per se (they aren't: every orifice is fine for them, even wounds),
>but I still think that it is a major taboo of bullers everywhere on the
>Lozenge. Of course, it doesn't mean that some will not guiltily do it
>anyway... And with no penalty whatsoever except if they are caught:

        Part of what I was getting at with this comment was that Storm
Bulls routinely violate social codes. IMO, Praxian males do not engage in
homosexual activity (at least not in anything but the greatest secrecy),
because Praxian culture cannot afford to sanction non-procreative sex.
There may also probably mythic reasons for this, as well as parallels drawn
from animal life. Uroxi, on the other hand, do whatever they damn well
please, and usually can't be forced to account for their actions because
their role as chaos-slayers is too vital for tribal survival.

>> These activities among women are
>> tolerated so long as they do not prevent procreative sex.
>> Paedophilia is a serious crime, as are rape and incest. These
>> actions attract chaotic spirits and can poison the tribe. Those who commit
>> them are outlawed.

>Yeah, forcefully sodomizing one's captives is also rape. Thed be cursed !

        Again, Uroxi commit all sorts of crimes, including rape, especially
when drunk.

>> So what do people think?
>I think it strange that in Glorantha the deity of rape is a rapee & not a
>rapist. The blame-it-on-the-victim game as usual... All hail the macho
>chauvinist pig (bull ?!) !!!

        Agreed that it does have overtones of 'blame the victim', but I
think the idea is that Thed was so humiliated by the experience that she
wanted to force her pain onto others as a way of mastering her own pain.
For Thed, sex can only be violent, painful, and forcible. Thus the broos
can only procreate in violent, painful, forcible ways.

Andrew E. Larsen


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