From: Gian Gero (giangero@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed 05 Apr 2000 - 11:41:00 EEST
To Terra,
>Subject: Temujin / AgartuSay
>To Gian:
>Martin Laurie Work and Greg Stafford Work are differentiated
>Laurie wrote from humanistic avenger with "resources and tools".
>Greg Stafford used this "resource and tools" as his Eastern Component as
> >fitted.
>So Sheng AgartuSay became AntiGod. Greg Stafford decided. (at least RQ
>Con4>Condition)
mmmhh. Possibly, but I'm not as sure as you seem to be.
>Temujin
>"Spread like Grassly Plain
>"Form battle alley like Sea
>"Fight Ferociously like Chisel
>"What is Another Way? Brother
>From Mongolian (Yuan Dynasty) Chronicle in Uighurite
Yes, Milius' Conan reported an interesting dialogue about these same
matters. Did you see the film?
>SunZy military strategist of Ancient China
>"Swift like Wind
>"Calm like Gloves
>"Agress like Flame
>"Stable like Mountain"
We call him SunZu, in Italy (maybe SunZy is the right form, I don't know).
It recalls very neatly Kagemusha, the masterpiece by the great Akira
Kurosawa.
Wind, Wave and Flame were the names of the regiments of Takeda Shingen-sama
and he called himself the Mountain (I suppose chinese SunZu is the base of
Japanese strategy: many Italian mangers, nowadays, read SunZu to learn how
to defeat their competitors on the mass-market). I am afraid I haven't read
him, yet. I am entertained by the idea that the future winner of Sekigahara
(the name was???) is often depicted as the bad guy, in most japanese
fiction. Am I right?
>"Life is always Slavery"
>"Distorted" Zho Lath Ey Teaching leads their constant Expansion Polisy
>as>their need and Tribeal Unity: Speed , Power, and Unity made Aesthetic
>Power:>destroy Western & Eastern Corrupted "Civilized" Mysticism. Make
>balance over>Elements (kralorelan teaching?) Ignore Hero Passion and Desire
>to Survive,>Elder Bloodline Kargzantic Structure changed to
>Enforcers.>Bursts are Needles and Nails to Enemies for Pain Star, Son of
>Sun>Rays understood Fericious Speed and Return
I am interested to know how the victories of Sheng or of Genghis influenced
Kralori/chinese warcraft. But I know that SunZu has composed his works
centuries before Genghis, so I suppose that late chinese and japanese
strategists still studied SunZu but rejected the mongol way. Only the Muslim
empire (I suspect) learned something from the Mongols; all the other empires
they destroyed simply hated them and called them "devils" (tartars).
Was Kubilai's dynasty a long one in chinese history?
>Storm Sun Movement of Seleran Empire as Incarnate of Sun of Son
>Right Cavarily with right ranged bowshot and Shiftmoving of Steppe make
> >Military Action Effective: against Lunar Magicians and Kralorelan
>Draconic >Mystics >Massshot pack movement should equip many Sunspears from
>Sunworshiper >(Kargzant Cult Changed by Emergency Call) and Hunter Sureshot
>are mustered
>for Sheng,
Yes, if I get what you mean, IMO the Lunar Empire learned much from the
nomad Selerans in order to beat them and rule them (partially).
>His Downfall was Fate for his limitless Greedy
>Cult of Double Hell Explorer call in the Deep hell
>"AgartuSay">He killed his own tormented sister in Instant Torture Camp
>System (In tale>of Martin Story) and become One of Retribution to
>World,>Sheng is Savior! Sheng is Demon Deceiver!
The greatest conquerors, in RW, fell when they tried to negate their
humanity (Alexander, Genghis, Caesar, even Napoleon, et cetera).
I like Gloranthan conquerors because they indeed stand a chance to succeed
in this final feat: they can become gods.
Sheng fell because his flaws were pitilessly exploited by the cunning
Lunars, or so I imagine the essential plot of those obscure events.
>"A" Argrath in Wasteland wandered:
>Brother High Llama Rider Yazakial Blue escorted him to Snowland.
(snip good A's tale)
Good show, Terra. My own vision of Argrath is surely compatible with this
tale of yours.
Ciao
Gian
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