From: Alex Ferguson (abf@cs.ucc.ie)
Date: Wed 23 Aug 2000 - 02:34:27 EEST
> Alex:
> Off the top of my head, a different reconcilation of this would be
> that the Black Oak clan were displaced from their former territory
> by the Kheldon, and said throne is a trophy thereof... (Whether
> it was already a throne, or whether the b*stards chopped a live oak
> down for this purpose...)
> Jeff again:
> It is also possible that the Black Oaks of the Kheldon and the clan of Mabodh
> were once the same, but diverged at some date (about 1400?-- perhaps the
> Mabodh clan took the throne because they were the elder lineage).
That would work for my purposes too, and sounds pretty decent. I think
I may need to do some remedial geography on who was where, when...
(Glorantha needs lots of 4-dimensional maps, I reckon.)
> In any
> rate, the throne is obviously a part of the clan or tribal regalia and thus
> less likely to be simply spoils unless the feud was legendary... after all it
> symbolizes the queenship.
I don't quite see the obviously and the after all, but fair enough.
Tribal 'traditions' have to come from some place, and making 'em up
on the spot is as good a method as any, mind you.
> [The stone of Scone is a good example of a spoil
> integrated into a piece of regalia; but the Kings of England after Edward I
> did not claim to be such by sitting on the stone -as the Kings of Scots did].
As near as damnit, though: it's incorporated into the coronation throne...
(Admittedly I don't recall off the top of my head what the pre-Union
practice was.) Sounds a lot more like an example than a counter-
example to me, I must say.
> Most likely the Black Oak throne is a lightning blasted oak log.
I was picturing as a good deal less man-portable: if not a living
tree, then a huge-sized stump, still well-rooted. The lightning-
blasted seems a given, on Coolness grounds.
Cheers,
Alex.
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