From: Jerome Blondel (bwbfc@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon 22 Oct 2001 - 12:30:31 EEST
Peter Metcalfe says the Hyalorings and Pentans have the same horse-breaking
Apparently, Gamara, the nurturing goddess of Nivorah, was unlucky enough to
myth and proposes that hyal descend from hippogriffs, and sered descend from
hyal. I missed the enlightening Entekosiad bit that suggests the Pentans
already had horses by the time of emperor Kestinoros. (No time yet to read
that great book thoroughly.) Then the Hyalorings of Saird had no further
contact with Pent until Jenarong.
be assimilated with Hippoi, for because of this she ended up in the Fourth
Hell among the tortured victims whereas Reladivus is still lording among the
big shots. That's quite unfair, because he did far worse: he married Elmal!!
Now the Dara Happans are often confused with people's sex when it comes to
rulership.
In the Darkness, Vingkot conquered Saird. I fancy his daughter Redaylde
>The Hyal disappeared because the Hyalorings [of Saird] no longer kept their
became the Great Priestess of Reladiva and married one Beren the Rider, a
Hyaloring AKA King Elmalus, who later fought against Shargash.
Yet Saird is the only place where hyal were still to be found at the Dawn.
Despite this, KoS (The Battle of Alavan Argay) implies that all Pentans were
Pure Horse people before the Gongarilli's emergence. So why did the Pentan
hyal degenerate first?
a) The Praxian storyteller got it wrong (being obviously influenced by her
b) Hyalor's Pact forced the Pentans to stop herding goats. Yet in Pent, the
own Praxian beliefs). Basically at the Dawn all Pentans were cattle-herders
and the Pure Horse tradition reappeared later (maybe they were the tribes
who fled from Argentium Thri'ile and weren't able to take their cattle with
them). Furthermore, the Pentans likely adopted the goat even before the
horse (GRoY p84). So why would they have separated from that useful animal?
hyal didn't last at all because they lacked a proper Earth Queen, something
they seem too need from the Grazers' example. The Hyalorings of Saird could
have had the blessing of Reladiva. (BTW, some horse magic was rediscovered
in Sylila when Hwarin Dalthippa heroquested to recreate the Reladiva cult.)
Any c)?
Anyway, I think the Kargzanti Hyalorings of Saird kept the last of the hyal
breed at the Dawn. After they merged with the Jenarong people, the breed
disappeared. The last people to bear Hyalor's name in Saird were Orlanthi.
>>Some of [the Pentans] could have become the Star Gazers who
>>brought Buserian's frame to Yuthuppa during the Long Night.
>>They were on foot.
>
>I think Buserian's frame was dragged by horses rather than
>by foot (the text doesn't say who dragged it). I interpret
>the arrival of the Starseers to Yuthuppa as being the same
>event as the Targos tribe moving into the lands around Yuthuppa.
That's very possible but i'm not sure. Wouldn't the Targos tribe ride their
Why is Kargzant a burning horse? I think he was fed too much horse blood
horses, true Kargzanti as they were? Or is it another case of Dara Happan
revisionism that the Star Gazers are stated to worship no god but the stars?
Clearly all Pentans were Starlight Wanderers and got help from the stars
during the Long Night (as they frequently went to the sky world during their
golden age), but IMO those peculiar Star Gazers are those who refused to
make bloody sacrifices to Kargzant and instead relied on no god but the
stars.
when he was in hell.
Jerome
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