The Fall of the Red Empire, GodLearners, Metals, Heresy

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From: Entropy needs no maintenance (STEVEG@ARC.UG.EDS.COM)
Date: Mon 08 Feb 1993 - 18:35:26 EET


> The feel of KoS is that Glorantha becomes scientific/secular and modern
> in the Age of Illiteracy. I don't like the idea of that at all.

Charitably, one could interpret some of the remarks along this line as reeferring to the final cataclysm of the Hero Wars as having established an even more rigorous Compromise that limited the gods even further - perhaps in order to prevent anything like the Red Moon happening again.

What I don't care for are the few teasing hints of the 4th age culture. Not enough to be any use; just enough to constrain any semi-official looks at the future.

And to think back in summer '90 Greg was still claiming he didn't know how thw Hero Wars turned out (when it was plain since '78 that the good guys would win against the creeping Red Menace).

aside :- given what happened to this world's Red Empire, how about a perestroika and collapse alternate history for the 17th century ST!

> Outsiders call these people /lay members/, though the use of this term is
> discouraged as probably being of God-Learner origin.

The GodLearner attribution seems to be the party line whenever reference is made to a term defined in the RQ2 rules, especially silly in this case as the term is perfectly good English, not gamespeak!

> What are the runic associations of the various metals anyway?

RQ2 had 

		Lead : Dark
		Quicksilver/aluminium : Sea
		Copper : Earth
		Gold : Sky
		Tin : Air
		Silver : Moon

RQ3 has Silver : Air; and no Lunar metal, nor affiliation for tin.

I prefer the RQ2 affiliations (Tin being associated with Jupiter and Silver with the Moon in this-world astrology) so have amended all my material accordingly, and would junk aluminium as being too much a post-Enlightenment material.

I'd keep quicksilver much as we know it. Enchanting it will be what is required to make it hold a form - though it will still be liquid within that form (insert any interesting armour rules you want)

The origin of iron as given in DW24 suggests that its runic affinity must be Death (being designed by the Mostali to kill those pesky elves and trolls).

> Enchantment and POW sacrifice

A specific case of the general gripe about POW in RQ3.

>Yelorna: are we going to get a revised/reprinted write-up for RQ3?

I don't know, but here's one for AD&D2 + Complete Priest's Handbook

Priest's alignment - Neutral Good
Minimum stats - WIS 10, CHA 13

Proficiencies - As Darkness god; plus recommended proficiency - Riding

Weapons, armour & shields - As moon goddess.

Granted Powers - infravision, Unicorn friendship (includes being able to determine if an area is guarded by a unicorn) 

Spells - Major access to All, Divination, Charm, Guardian and Sun
       - Minor access to Necromantic, Healing, Protection and Elemental(Fire)
       - Detect Silver, Detect Gold (level 1)
       - Conjure Fire Elemental (level 5)

The above was part of a conversion exercise I did after noting that a priest character who'd taken the Barbarian culture and the cult of Strength acted just like a Storm Bull might... In fact the only changes I'd make to the cult of Strength to make it a Storm Bull equivalent would be:-

Priest's alignment - Chaotic (err.... disorderly) neutral; Spells - delete FlameStrike; insert Conjure Air Elemental.

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