From: David Dunham , via RadioMail (ddunham@radiomail.net)
Date: Mon 25 Oct 1993 - 18:35:30 EET
>From: nrobinso@sirius.UVic.CA (Neil Robinson)
Greg told me Jardan=Golden Bow.
>Prior to this battle, the Pure Horse
>people also suffered a loss to the Trolls, where their War God (Golden
>Bow) was crushed (KoS 193). RoC also mentions this.
>
>Does this mean they worship a Dead God?
I don't think so. There are Golden Bow counters in the Dragon Pass game. I don't interpret "crushed" to mean killed; it's a crushing military loss, which mirrors a humiliating defeat for their war god.
>From: 100116.2616@CompuServe.COM (David Hall)
>when someone joins the Temple of Indrodar (a local Lismelder
>sub-cult of Humakt). When Corwen (from Tales #6) joined up we had a full
>clan funeral for him - everybody was there mourning his death. The funeral
>pyre could be seen for miles around. Though I did feel sorry for his widow
>and kids.
I think you're overdoing this -- wife is _not_ his kin. And one could argue that Humakt only cut himself off from his kin, not his descendents (isn't there a Humaktsson floating around [is this an Arkat title?]). Still, the funeral is a neat touch.
>Humakti in the tribe:
>This is also a place where Humakti can operate.
This is also where they best operate among the Grazers...
>on Humakt's High
>Holy Day (Indrodar's Deathday) anyone in the tribe can sacrifice for
>Indrodari spells - though only 1 point ones. This doesn't mean that they
>only worship him on that day - all tribesmen and women worship him every
>Orlanthi holy day - or at least think of him, or appease him.
>
>This is something that the clunky mechanics of RQ can't cope with. I say
>that Indrodar's Temple is a large Humakti temple. But RQ says that because
>there are only some 50 - 80 Swordbrothers it's not even a minor one. This
>is tosh. It means that for some deities, i.e. Minlister, Heler, Donander,
>Issaries & Indrodar, you will never get enough worshippers together (1,500
>- which is three Sartari clans, or one small city) to have access all the
>gods magics.
>
>The only way around this is to count worshippers per pantheon of deities,
>and not per god. So, in Lismelder lands Indrodar is, by definition,
>worshipped by everyone who worships the Orlanth pantheon. The tribe is
>4,000 strong which give me a Great Temple - if I want to define it as being
>that big.
You beat me to it -- I've been meaning to write something similar.
Unfortunately, while the problem is real, I think your solution is too broad. Every tribe _doesn't_ have a Great Temple. And your answer that you decide it isn't is hardly a useful guideline!
>However, the emphasis on Storm Bulls in Sartar seems to be away from
>chaos-killing and toward the drunken berserkers of Viking Saga's. In this
>case Storm Bulls would be far easier to fit within a clan and tribal
>structure.
I don't think the prevalence of berserks in the sagas has anything to do with their prevalence in the culture -- they just did stuff that made them more memorable. If I remember right, Egil spent most of his life farming, but most of his saga is devoted to the exciting stuff.
>I do like the idea of Storm Bull being different in Sartar as compared to
>Prax (it has to be as the two places are so different)
I agree, but want to see your alternate spells before I take any away...
>From: timp@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Tim Posney)
>There are good copies of most of the utitlities you need available for
>public use. If there is enough interest I'll post them to soda.., but they
>are all ftpable from simtel etc.
Don't bother -- not only do I use a Macintosh, I have only email access to Internet.
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