From: johnjmedway (jjm@zycor.lgc.com)
Date: Sat 06 Nov 1993 - 06:51:59 EET
me, without thinking enough:
>> > The Sun Domers are almost universally worshippers of Yelmalio, not Yelm.
Nick:
>> Subject: Slaves of the Sun Dome
>> Date: 30 Oct 93 15:03:51 GMT
>> X-RQ-ID: 2150
>>
>> Interesting question: given the "Elmal schism", is this a valid comment?
>> I *think* the point of the Sun Dome Temple is that they live their life of
>> discipline in emulation of Yelmalio, the dutiful son of Yelm. That is, they
>> take a "perfect soldier" / "perfect son" as their role model, but their
>> main object of worship would be the same as his: Yelm, the Fiery Father.
Given the previous discussion on worshipping a pantheon ( Orlanth = all of the Orlanthi pantheon, Ernalda = Voria, Ernalda, Asrelia, etc. ) it may be a moot point. This is just another example of how that idea works in these settings.
>> > Building Wall Battle, anyone?
>>
>> What, you want details?
Hey, a guy can ask, can't he?
>> Just as long as you don't believe anyone who tells
>> you it was made from poisonous, spiny coral... A giant Esrolite earthwork,
>> gnome-raised, is all you need (and far more sensible).
Is that what that old Different Worlds drawing was supposed to be? CORAL? Yeeech. What was Greg on?
>> Too easy? Me, I find it irresistable. You have a model for the hard-working
>> peasantry (clean-shaven men in kilts: "effeminate" by Barbarian standards),
>> ...
>> Importing the Red Emperor's cult as a new Husband God -- Caesar &
>> Cleopatra. No, this is all too good to pass up.
Whether egyptian-esque or not, how about square shields? (shaped like an earth rune)
>> Try calling 'em "Esrolites", too. Helps with that "ancient" feel. Perhaps
>> they use -im rather than -i for plurals: "Humaktim, Orlanthim," etc. Hours
>> of fun (and maybe OK by David Cheng, too).
>> I know the "official" line is that Esrolia is "just like Sartar", only with
>> women in charge. But that's boring. Everywhere ends up looking more or less
That line also makes little sense. It just doesn't follow that a woman- oriented, Ernalda-centric culture is going to look and feel like a male- centered Orlanthi culture. ( NOTE: I am describing who is the major figure in the pantheon, not necessarily which pantheon ).
I also agree, it should be much more interesting than just a Southern Sartar.
>> From: ddunham@radiomail.net (David Dunham , via RadioMail)
>> Subject: Costume
>> X-RQ-ID: 2151
>>
>> I agree, the Pharoah is an outsider, not necessarily an Esrolian.
Hmm, a question just came to mind. Who named the Pharoah "the Pharoah"?
>> Hey, I lost touch with Sean. He's still in the Austin area? Tell him I said
>> "hi!"
Last I saw him was playing Credo with Stafford at Origins in Ft. Worth, but as far as I know, he's still working in the capitol, and is living in the same house, filled with drums and martial arts goodies and all of the rest of Sean-ness, here in Austin. Next time he nearly runs me down on his bike, while in the campus area, I'll try to remember to pass it on.
BTW: Regarding Credo, does anyone know when it's to come out?
>> From: drcheng@sales.stern.nyu.edu (David Cheng)
>> Subject: Disclaimer
>> X-RQ-ID: 2167
>>
>> John Medway: Doesn't Ral Partha make a line of Egyptian Ancients?
Yep, in 25mm figures. I've pretty much decided to follow the local trend, and do 15mm figures, though. I'd probably not have the time to sculpt/cast/ paint enough of the 25s, anyway.
It's also easier to get 15mm historicals, and I'll be able to afford the plane fare too!
Still need to finish that sable sculpture.
Anybody got an O.B. for Moonbroth? ( Kidding! )
Well, kind-of kidding. Did the Sables line up with the Praxians, then turn on them, or did they join the Lunar lines before the battle commenced?
>> From: MILLERL@wharton.upenn.edu (Loren J. Miller)
>> Subject: AOL Discussion: Prax and American West
>> X-RQ-ID: 2168
>>
>> America On-line RuneQuest Chat
>> June 9, 1993
>> Logged by Loren Miller (Ekron)
>> Part 1: Praxians and American Indians
Gray == Oliver Jovanovic
Ekron == Loren Miller
Koribouros == ?
>> Gray: One point you bring up is interesting actually -
>> some people see these as Indians (the model favored
>> by Peterson) others as Arabic desert nomads,
>> dressed in long robes...
I don't remember ever seeing a picture, nor hearing a description of a Praxian who wore long robes. The picture in Foes shows a motley assortment, with the Altecamelus-rider, looking physically like a Mongol, but in light dress. The rest could be anything.
One thing that was wrong about that picture, and the Zebra-rider in the genertela book was the lack of clothing. In hot, dry climates you want some real covering, though not necessarily heavy robes. Oh, and that Zebra-rider hat-headress-thing: Form over function. (Real useful in a sunny locale, whatcha think?)
>> Koribouros: There are a lot of still-extant tribes out there
>> who ride very odd beasts, though.
Other than the major tribes, and Unicorn, Zebra & Bolo Lizard, what else is out there? Besides, what really characterizes "very odd beasts"?
>> Koribouros: Besides, isn't the holy country a mostly farming
>> area? Not neccesarrily a good place for herds.
Unless they intend to wipe out the locals.
>> IrishSpy: Prax strikes me more as the American Southwest
>> P Michaels: Specifically, Prax is mostly chapparel,filled with
>> stands of woody shrub thickets 1 to 4 meters high.
>> Gray: Even the Sahara and Gobi have human inhabitants,
>> nevertheless. Right, I think the American SW is a
>> better model. Prax in particular is considered
>> paradise by the animal nomads.
>> PRHarmaty: SW U.S. is too harsh.
Depends on which part of the SouthWest you consider. There are regions within the SW which are not full dessert. The grass is blasted brown by the sun, but there's something there on which to graze. Still a "desert" with respect to rainfall and sparsenes of vegetation.
Some regions could have the steep-sided buttes and mesas, and nothing but dirt and rock. But Prax, and the better parts of the Wastes, could look like Texas. (Still makes it "The Wastes" IMHO, but then again, I'm from where there is such a thing as rain.)
>> Gray: I think you might look at what tribes inhabit Prax
>> more than the Wastes and model those more after
>> American Indians, and the Waste dwellers more after
>> bedouins and Mongols. With some crossover...
But the two groups trade-off, both on a seasonal cycle, and whenever the balance of shifts in the tribal alliances.
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