From: Mark Sullivan -- Michigan Library Consortium (sullivam@mlc.lib.mi.us)
Date: Fri 26 Nov 1993 - 18:56:30 EET
Quoting me:
>> I liked your ideas on climbing Wintertop, but I think oxygen >> should be a problem. One solution: use controlled Sylphs to >> provide breathable air.
> Oxygen? What's oxygen? Oxygen is not a relevant concept in
> Glorantha, where Air is an element. We need Air to breathe, not
> some imaginary component of that air.
So I repeat. Use controlled Sylphs to provide breathable air.
> I think lack of Oxygen on Wintertop would be unaccesptable -
> aren't mountains Sacred to Orlanth (especially Wintertop). I
> would imagine that (given this elemental association of air with
> earth) that (breathable) air extends all the way to the sky. I
> think that only when you reach the sky might breathing become
> a problem ... (maybe you have to be able to breathe fire or
> aether?)
Good point.
Joerg Baumgartner on Cosmology and minor matters
> One half sphere below, Darkness, containing the Lower
> World, therein Water, drifting upon that, Earth (with a big hole
> in the middle, Magasta's Pool, leading right down to the Lower
> World), a half sphere above, Sky, with the Upper World inside the
> shell, in between Air. Where both spheres meet, we find the Outer
> World: Luathela and the Gate of Dusk, Altinela, Vithela and the
> Land of Dawn.
Thanks for clarifying. Now I get it.
Quoting me:
>> However, I would contend that because of Orlanth's defeat of >> Yelm and the displacement of the Sky by Umath, that Air blocks >> the line of sight. Sight is an attribute of the Sky. In God >> Time before the birth of Umath, sight was not blocked. One >> could see in a straight line as far as the eye could see. Now >> the power of eyesight is limited due to the defeat of the Sky >> gods by the Air gods.
> Runic ties Dart Competiton starting again: the appropriate sense
> for Sky is heat sense - of little practical use, like a certain
> emperor cult.
This I don't get. It seems *clear*. Yelm and Yelmalio both get Farsee and Yelm has Command Hawk and Eagle (both exceptionally keen-eyed creatures). Orlanth does not get Farsee. Sight is tied to the Sun Rune (if to any Rune). Orlanth's Wind Words spell indicates that Air is closer to hearing than sight. But its probably closer still to speech. Hence the expression - big bag of wind ;-) .
> I liked Paul Reilly's proposal that light rays are as bent as a
> certain leading light deity or his rune...
I don't think I saw this. When did it appear? Bent light rays would seem to cause way more paradoxes (or is that paradoxen?) than they solve.
> I am not a Yelm sympathizer, am I?
I never would have guessed.
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