From: alex (alex@dcs.gla.ac.uk)
Date: Tue 19 Apr 1994 - 19:45:17 EEST
Jonas Schiott:
> [Me:]
> >[The Sandy one:]
> >> Bolongo: the local trickster sect. He only provides a very few
> >> spells, and his worshipers are pitied, but not necessarily tolerated.
> >Does this follow the same pattern as `generic' (GoG) pattern of Trickster
> >worship?
> I'm not sure, off the top of my head, what source Alex is quoting from
Neither am I. What quotation are you referring to?
> GoG states unequivocally that any Trickster worshipper can get spells from
> any shrine. This is the pragmatic side of things, and to me, it looks like
> strong evidence that Trickster is One.
The God Learners clearly thought so. IÕm studiedly agnostic on whether these correspondances are True or not, though I probably would play it as written in the massively unlikely case that it ever actually came up.
> But a Bolongo worshipper visiting a Eurmal shrine
> can still learn the spell. I don't know what justification they have for
> this - perhaps worshippers of the Trickster have fewer illusions about His
> (Its?) limitations than the 'squares' do.
Perhaps they can do it As Long As It's Funny.
> It will certainly never be a
> problem for a Eurmalite; the Eurmal myths seem to encompass just about
> every aspect (except maybe Murderer)
I'm not sure that's true on the basis of published _myths_. (Truant? Dismembered? Shapechanger? Destroyer?) They're not inherently implausible, though. Actually, Murderer would fit perfectly well with Eurmal's relationship with Death.
> Of course, there is one practical effect of the aspect thing: it would seem
> to affect the geographic distribution of shrines, i.e. in an
> orlanthi-dominated region there would probably not be any shrines dedicated
> to non-Eurmal aspects
Well, that is indeed effectively what I was asking. However, it's not merely a question of gloranthography: in any given locality, any given shrine will (almost) certainly be thought of as being dedicated to a _particular_ Trickster deity, not as being a Generic Trickster Shrine, whatever the game- (or world-)mechanical aspects say.
> On a lighter note, if Illusion is temporary reality, isn't reality just a
> big illusion with lots of Extension? And wouldn't that make Trickster the
> Creator? Now I know this is not The Truth, because I suggested it to Greg
To reuse a Convulsion heckle, What does Greg know, he only writes the stuff! Note that this theory was mooted (more or less) in RQ2. As plausible as the average creation myth, not necessarily excluding scientific ones.
Joerg:
> The God Learners' associations for Eurmal (Illusion) and Bolongo
> (Disorder) seem wrong to me, and totally meaningless for Genertela. (I
> blame this text on one of the Umathelan universities.)
Blame it on the too-well-travelled, Jrusteli-based God Learners. I donÕt think any given locality recognises all of the `Greater GodsÕ.
Put that Dismiss Magic MMMMM down,
Alex.
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