Why Arkat brought Malkionism to Maniria?

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From: Alex Ferguson (alex@dcs.gla.ac.uk)
Date: Thu 12 May 1994 - 19:30:37 EEST

Joerg, X-RQ-ID: various:

> > Okay. My picture is of less Malkioni influence, and correspondingly
> > a less prevalent role for the IG in Heortland.

> Which I assume for the Volsaxi, Kitori, Marcher Barons and most of the
> hill people, and even half of the Hendriki nation, mostly the lower
> classes. That the higher classes of the Hendriki are somewhat malkionized
> follows clearly from both Genertela Book and RQ-Companion.

Yes, I agree with this last bit, but you've been proposing that "weavers" follow the Aeolian church. To say nothing of "Saint Barntar".

> > De gustibus, n'awrat.

> Right, although if there ever should appear an officialized version of
> Heortland, one of the views would prevail.

Officialisation could produce anything it feels like. I reserve the right to take issue with it, too.

> [Aeolians = / <> God Learners]
> > Heh. No, what I meant was the inclusion of deities in the creed which
> > aren't in _either_ Western or Orlanthi cosmology: I wasn't objecting
> > to the combination of these two, which is obviously the whole point.

> Which, for example?

I forget the whole creed, but Maker and Grower spring to mind, and the identification of Glorantha, Ginna Jar, and Arachne Solara.

> Alex Ferguson in X-RQ-ID: 3868

> > My understanding is that the dominant Western influence on Maniria is
> > post-Closing. (The "Trader Princes". See G:CotHW; GB2, p46.)

> That's the western part of Maniria, west of Esrolia.

I still suspect this is the origin of said influence, but I grant that Heortland is more Westernised than the rest of Maniria.

> For the Holy
> Country, we are in the lucky position to have the RQC description,
> which tells us that the Hendriki inherited the rule over Heortland
> from him. In my opinion they adopted knighthood and related concepts

Minor quibble: they didn't, really, as Hendriki "knights" aren't a Malkioni-style caste or class, much less anything at all like modern Hrestoli knights.

> I'm certain the Hendriki were
> part of his host, and fought alongside Ralian Orlanthi and Seshnegi
> Hrestoli.

I'm not convinced that any Westerner likely to accompany Arkat, a person who'd just apostasised from their religion, would be likely to make good "missionary" material. Certainly not to the extend that a millenium later, a country in the middle of theist territory would end up as IG-inclined as central Ralios, who have Seshnela breathing down their necks. That they'd influence them in military matters is easier to believe.

> > This
> > seems to be very much a "top-down" influence. This timescale also
> > corresponds roughly to the settling of the Quivins area, by people,
> > recall, seeking to establish "old-time Orlanth worship".

> This would apply to the Colymar, who are said to come from Esrolia
> (or Ditali lands?) in CHDP.

Indeed, but they and their fellow colonists, who were likely to have similar motivations, don't seem likely to be fertile ground for rampant Malkionisation.

> > But in any case, if all Aeolians worship their Trinity, my point holds
> > good.

> They all say so in the credo their wizards/priests taught them. I doubt
> that many would seriously reflect on the implications of this tradition.
> Those who do are likely to have at least some degree of clerical investment.

They may not "reflect on the implications", but if they all turn up at a building marked "Aeolian church, apply within", then they are all linked by having, in essense, the same "cult", right? Stop arguing with me while I'm trying to agree with you. ;-)

Alex.

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