Re: Invisible God

From: Paul Reilly (paul@phyast.pitt.edu)
Date: Fri 27 May 1994 - 00:59:07 EEST


  Paul Reilly here. Gary Newton writes:

>And what about the Invisible God being transcendent rather than immanent?

  Hmm. Where is this from? I think that the IG was immanent in First Age Malkionism, and is now considered immanent by some sects and transcendent by others. People should let me know if they want a LONG discussion of this; the reason are complex.

  Short comment: I view the Malkioni religions as having more kinship with the various Hellenistic philosphies than with any Earthly religions per se. Of course this leads to some similarities as those philosophies fed into the development of CHristianity, Islam, Mithraism, Isis worship, and even Judaism.

  I think the Camranians DEFINITELY consider the IG Immanent. However, I don't know which of the Hrestoli and the Rokari espouse this view; whichever one believes, the other must believe the opposite. Currently I lean toward the Hrestoli believing in an Immanent God and the Rokari in a Transcendent but I am open to your arguments.

  Saints: I don't think "Saint" is a great word because it has connotations of goodness, holiness, etc. which do not apply well to certain Saints such as Arkat. I _think_ Saints are those who have broken down the barriers and operate on 'both sides' of reality (in the West). They have great power for good or ill. The Immanent IG sects would think that they have achieved partial union with the GOdhead while still living.

  Angels is appropriate if theyt are messengers of the IG, look up the etymology of Angel.

  Anyway, I have a LOT of stuff on this subject, and I don't think everyone would be interested. Perhaps a Malkion mailing list would be appropriate for the real fanatics? We don't want to annoy people with excessive 'scholarly' discussions in a public forum, so perhaps we should retreat to the catacombs of email.


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