From: Paul Reilly (paul@phyast.pitt.edu)
Date: Thu 02 Jun 1994 - 20:15:55 EEST
Paul Reilly here.
Graeme writes:
>> I've never seen any reference to Hrestol being executed, much less how
>> he died - can you point me to one?
Good point. I don't think he did... but Nick replies:
>Well, looks like my theory's the only one in town, and seems to plug a hole
>in the mythos. As I said, there's no supporting evidence for *any* part of
>the hypothesis. Take it or leave it.
The Westerners seem pretty in-the-world kind of guys to me - they associate long life with holiness, a holdover from their Brithini roots. I had kind of guessed that Hrestol was assumed bodily into Solace (i.e., by my theory, a mystic Union with the Invisible God.) rather than dying per se. Skip the whole Good Friday / Easter thing and go straight to the Ascention.
I whave to apologize to people about sending out stuff 'soon'; it seems my mailer has been overwriting my old stored mail files and I do not have all the old stuff I had written. I will have to write new stuff or find copies or get them from other people, may take a bit...
Devin Cutler writes:
D> I do not gainsay Nick's gaming contributions. I thought his scenario D> in TOTRM 11 (I hope I got the issue # right) was great!
and later:
D> Well Nick, I'm at work, and I KNOW that you wrote a scenario I really D> liked and that it was Sea/God Learner oriented, so maybe change TOTRM D> to #10 and I stand corrected.
Rats! I was hoping this was my scenario in #11, mistakenly attributed to Nick. Rather than someone else's in #10, also mistakenly attributed to Nick...
I think all of the big Movement gods get lamed at some point, following the primal pattern of Larnste. Mastakos gets healed (by Orlanth?) but I think Lokarnos is still lame, hence he is not a Runner like Mastakos or Jmijie - he has to stay on his wagon.
I also note that in Dara Happa (GRAoY) he is the God of Merchants; nothing is said about wagons. Perhaps the Dara Happans had the Wheel before other peoples, and their merchants brought the first wagons that many other people ever saw - hence the association of Lokarnos and wagons.
Harald Smith comments nicely (XRQID 4294) on various astrological matters connected with the two deities. Oh, I see he agrees with me about Lokarnos being crippled:
"Lokarnos" was crippled in hell and
must lumber along, aided by either a staff or carried on a
wagon.
Devin Cutler's Riddles:
>What was found by laughter, adopted by truth, used by trees, taken by ambush,
>and cleansed by the winds?
The First Gift of the Dark Woman. A man who was the Shadow Half of the Pure Light received her Second Gift.
>Riddle 2:
>Children of Time
>and of Death
>Always busy
>with every breath
>the world their charge
>land above heel
>watching each
>spark and wheel
>condemned to live
>eternal life
>unless cut short
>by untimely strife
>with wonders taken
>by human hands
>they've secrets left
>to fix the land
??? First two lines don't fit my theory. Otherwise they are the Made Makers, the clay ones.
>Riddle 3:
>One of five can find a treasure but never bring it back. Two of five can
>loose the arrow that starts the attack. Three of five can steal a purse and
>leave no track. Four of five can pledge a vow so loyalty does not lack. But
>five of five can do anything once they have the knack.
Perhaps the sons of Umath?
>Riddle 4:
>What is square but rolls round and when done spots abound?
Hmm. Didn't the Block roll? I'll have to think about this.
>Riddle 5:
Obvious, but very nice. Does Aranea feature in this Heroquest?
>Riddle 6:
The Emperor. (Golden, not Red!)
>Riddle 7:
Don't tell this one in Sartar, they'll put you away!
""Argrath" suggested the Morocanth Thumbquest. Peter Michaels and Loren suggested (rightly, IMO) that the thumbs of the human are his 'stake' and get bitten off. However, I don't think they should necessarily get 'grafted' on - if the Morocanth are really Darkness creatures they should be able to practice _becoming_through_eating_ : they just swallow the thumbs and over the next season, the new pair of Morokanth's Thumbs grows out.
Note that the human can't just get his thumbs regenerated - the Morokanth has the _pattern_ for his thumbs. He has no 'ghost aura' to guide the Regeneration, like Aura Rot / Leprosy.
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Sandy writes:
> The God Learners didn't destroy any continents, and would
>have prevented the damage if they could. Let's not blame the victims.
Hurrah! One for Old Jrustela!
I really do like the better God Learners.
-paul
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