Dangans

From: Jonas Schiott (jonas.schiott@vinga.hum.gu.se)
Date: Mon 06 Jun 1994 - 22:28:56 EEST



Gary:

>does anyone have any views on whether these are the
>Dangkae of Jonat's Saga / descendants of King Dan, or whether they have
>something to do with the Dangan Confederacy of Jonas Schiott's East Wilds
>History? If the former, then the draining of the Fens must have been Second
>Age...? Erm...? As for the latter, I'm a bit confused about the dates for the
>Dangan Confederacy. Jonas says the First Age - are they still there now?
>BTW Jonas; people have told me there are sources referring to the
>Confederacy, but I don't seem to be able to find anything. Are they really
>obscure, or am I just missing my Scan roll a lot? <g> Help!

OK, the Jonat's Saga stuff I simply do not believe in, it's contradicted by too many later (and published) sources. Of course, if Greg decides to _publish_ the Saga, I might have to eat these words... Though Jonat seems to be a much cooler guy than Arkat (better name, for one thing), so I probably wouldn't mind all that much.

The Confederacy...well, I must admit that I've lost my original notes for the History, so I'm no longer sure exactly where everything comes from. But the Dangan Confederacy is called "Theyalan converts in Ralios" in the Glorantha Book, and it also claims that these people are the reason the Council moved to Dorastor in the first place (!!!...no other source corroborates this, so we have glossed over the _reason_ in our history and just stated that they move). A few paragraphs later, the loyalty of eastern Ralians to Nysalor is established - in order to tie a few loose ends together, we drew the conclusion that "Dangans" and "eastern Ralians" where the same. And no, the confederacy is not around today, but the descendants of the people who _formed_ the confederacy are.

Note that the Genertela Book gives a whole new version of the New Fen's origin, saying nothing at all about any Dangans.

You want my guess as to the origin of this confusion? I'd say the bits about the Dangan Confederacy, the Dangim and the Dangan Empire were all written by different people, who new that there was _some_ kind of Dang-people _somewhere_ in Raios (possibly getting this info from the Jonat's Saga excerpt), but not much else. The oldest of these writings can safely be discounted (though it was interesting to read about its origins). But it _is_ irritating that two books from the same box weren't checked against each other. Of course, the Genertela Book wasn't even checked against itself, so this is just a symptom of a much more widespread problem.

(      Jonas Schiott                                   )
(      Institutionen for Ide- och lardomshistoria      )
(      Goteborgs Universitet                           )

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