From: Alex Ferguson (alex@dcs.gla.ac.uk)
Date: Tue 02 Aug 1994 - 12:12:32 EEST
Sandy does Take Three (plus?) on joining Dayzatar:
> Okay. First off, you have to be a Chief Priest or High Priest, not
> just any old priest. That limits the accessibility somewhat. No
> acolytes. No ordinary old priests.
Makes more sense. At least as a degenerate 3rd ageism, etc. I still cleave to the belief that the source of the cyclic rebirth myth must surely coincide with a historical period when one really was "born" into the Dayzatar, in some sense. Assuming we believe this myth as written...
> Second, not just any solar cult will do. Lodril won't, for
> one. Yelmalio is certainly okay, as is Yelm.
I bet Yelmalio very often isn't. After all, who else are these Dara Happan Arch Conservatives who don't recoignise Y.io as the sun of Yelm, if not Dayzatari? Now Antirius would be a shoe-in...
> >One could get hung up on terminology all day, but it seems very
> >likely to me that most Vinga worship occurs in temples to Orlanth,
> >at shrines to Herself. Whether this makes her a "subcult" or not is
> >a matter of interpretation, mainly, I think.
> I think that subcult is a fairly specific term in Glorantha,
> and that it refers to cults that are entirely subsumed by another
> cult.
The term subcult is used variously to mean a) the cult of an aspect of a god; b) a particular "stage" in a cult, and c) a "subservient" cult. All three are doubtless Godlearnerisms, anyhow. ;-) (And overlap, to some extent, anyway.)
> Greg even used the term "Orlanth Adventuress" to describe
> Vinga's subcult, which makes it even more clear what its part in
> society represents.
This isn't very different from saying "Issaries is Orlanth Goodvoice", though. I'd say that Vinga was in the fuzzy area where it was _usually_ "just a subcult", but occassionally, or at least potentially, is worshipped separately. Not unlike Barntar or Mastakos, I'd say. But it's not really an important distinction, in my view.
> Actually, in Greg's early writings the westerners were good
> guys. And the Rokari/Hrestoli split wasn't explicit. I think that
> part of the West Are Bad influence is Greg's reaction against his
> earlier styles of thinking and writing.
> re: disestablishmentarianism
> I wasn't going to gloat over my use of this word, but too
> many people praised me for it in the daily, so I will proudly accept
> my title of "Most Obnoxious Pedant". Thank you, all.
Nonsense! This title is Mine By Right, not least because of my Critical Quibble with your usage of the above term! ;-)
Alex.
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