From: Nils Weinander (niwe@ppvku.ericsson.se)
Date: Wed 10 Aug 1994 - 16:57:24 EEST
Nils Weinander writing
Sandy in the Daily of August 08:
> I agree with your argument here except that I believe that
>Shang Hsa preceded Yanoor by an emperor or two. I do NOT believe
>Shang Hsa was part of the False Dragon Ring, though they may have
>resurrected some of his powers.
What did Shang Hsa do to become so hated ('may his name be cursed' etc)?
Devin's Baroshi cult:
Nice idea with the male earth warrior cult. I'm not quite sure the runes are appropriate. Earth is, of course, probably as Dust. But Law is a western rune, hardly known in Snake Pipe Hollow. Mastery seems a bit strong for a new godling. However I don't really have a good suggestion of what to have instead.
I like the Earth Burn spell. Why Enchant Amber? The spell is OK, but is amber that strongly associated to earth? I don't know about Gloranthan amber, but earth amber, being of organic nature is IMO more plant-oriented. Suggestion: use the same enchantment but on some kind of tone instead.
Hmm, some gripes there, but generally my impression is positive.
Jim Lai writes:
>I was thinking about rescues of the Anguished Dead who spread into the
>world between the reigns of the two true Emperors. One would possibly
>defeat them and then inform them that they could go home now and make
>their way to Vithela. GoG wasn't clear on the nature of the Tortured
>Dead. Did they find peace once Godunya ascended the throne, or are
>they still wandering the world?
What about this: Godunya gave the mission of rounding up the Tortured Dead and help them off to an Exarch and his staff. They worked exclusively on this for a decade or three.
>As to the Eastern times of night: theft, murder, curse, cannibal, monster,
>torture, and spark-in-the-sky... could these correspond to Godtime events
>in the Lesser and Greater Darknesses? Might the spark-in-the-sky be the
>destruction of the Spire of Law? Monster time could be tied with the influx
>of chaos. Cannibal time would be the result of starvation during the
>sleep of Ernalda/the Grain Goddesses. Torture time might have a connection
>with the Tortured Dead: the spirits of those who were warped by chaos?
I think of Spark-in-the-sky as a herald of dawn, perhaps a rememberance of minor light gods who kept some vigilance when Yelm was in hell, like Yelmalio for instance. The other hour names are very broad, so they might also be just names, for the bad dark time that the night is.
>Also, how to City Gods fit in the Kralorian way of thinking? Perhaps the
>orthodox view is that these ancestors may have gone to Vithela, but they
>still lend a helping hand to those left behind. (Obligations tying one
>to the world even after death. It's a rather Dragonewt conception, which
>is a bonus here.)
Previous emperors are worshipped as god. They might offer protection to the cities, but I'm skeptic towards deified city founders unless they are dragon-type figures.
I asked for an Ernalda myth:
>The myth says that Ernalda hid deep under the ground during the
>Great Darkness. Which god(s) managed to get her back above ground?
Sandy answered:
> She didn't. She's still underground, out of contact with her
>minions except through her priestesses and religious ceremonies.
Appropriate animals for Chalana Arroy allied spirits, a somewhat confusing discussion:
Suggestion: butterflies
Criticism: RW butterflies have a very short life
Suggestion: hummingbirds
Criticism: RW hummingbirds are eggressive and dependent on nectar
Suggestion: doves
Criticism: RW doves are nasty
So what do RW animals have to do with Gloranthan equivalents except for their name and appearance? Gloranthan butterflies might live for years, especially if inhabited by the allied spirit of a priestess of the formost life giving cult.
Gloranthan hummingbirds might be docile and able to feed off any flowering plant.
Gloranthan doves may the messengers of peace they are depicted as in RW symbolism.
/Nils W
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