Various ramblings from the Blue Wizard.

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From: Peter Metcalfe, CAPE Canty (CHEN190@csc.canterbury.ac.nz)
Date: Sun 14 Aug 1994 - 14:57:19 EEST


I fought We Won


David Cake contradicts me in my debate with Joerg about Zzabur and whether he fought I fought we won.

Joerg said

>>>From Trollpak, I take it that Zzabur fought in the I fought we won.

I said

>>The Godlearners said it applied to all races and not all human cultures

David Cake in quoting this and following parts writes

>[spurious explanation deleted]

Spurious? SPURIOUS?!? Cacodemon has been dispatched to feast on your bollocks! 8-)

Seriously enough, David does raise a valid question about the I fought we won with a valid quotation. My only defense is that the source I quote was written after Cults of Terror and Greg may have changed his mind. Certainly as it says in eleven troll battles when talking of the war, it gives the location as north of Dragon Pass and says the survivors later formed the First Council. As Zzabur was not part of the First Council (Eric Rowe can correct me on this: Is Zzabur a particpant in "the broken council LARP"?), It follows that Zzabur was not a particpant of the I fought we won battle. How to explain the discrepancy inside Glorantha ?

  1. The God Learners were confused (again!). They recognized a moment in the cosmos which they called the Final Battle of Mortality (which can be located in Fronela/Brithos - High Kings Elf's stronghold is Winterwood) and confused theyalan tales of the I fought we won with this. As the God Learners were the most learned (and leats wise) this raises the question of how well the EWF and Errinoru's Empire understood the Cosmos! Scary!
  2. Zzabur was bragging as usual.

The OOO debate revisits old ground

Eric Rowe writes
>I asked him (Greg) today (for the broken Council LARP) and Greg said the OOO
>was not an office

Oh, God Forbid! Having radically revised my explanation about the OOO, I now find it was based on a false premise. Due to lethargy induced by heavy false-gregging, I refuse to write any further on this topic for a while.

Gark the Calm

Rich asks about Gark the Calm Cult Writeup. I know there was an official written up for a french magazine called Broos which is now out of print. I do not have a copy and would also add my voice for a copy. An added inducement is that I promise to debate with you a gloranthan topic of your choice in the digest (subject to limitation of course: I will not debate Joerg's many suns hypothesis (to please henk) nor will I revisit the OOO debate).

I suspect that Ompalam and Jraktal may never be written up as a difficulty with these cults is trying to find some mechanism to prevent Fonritian PC's from joining what is a mainstream cult. Any ideas, Sandy?

The Dying Earth


Jonas writes of Ernalda
>I still don't know _how_ she died,

Ernalda died during the Gods War, in protest at flamal's death at the hands of Zorak Zoran. Many Earth Cults also followed her. This was called the Death Sleep. I find the lack of mention of it in Orlanthi mythology of KoS quite surprising.

Ressurecting Gods killed in myth

I think it is possible. After all what are the mostali trying to do? Given that he lived in the spike (which is no longer existant) and was killed in the Gods War, the mostali have no doubts about the eventual success of their project (although the chaos tainted objection of Bryan J. Maloney suggests we should start a dwarf pogrom). Given the mundane body of Genert is still largely intact, I think it could be done.

Improbable uses for Power Spirits

David baur gives an eloquent refutation of Joerg's munchkinism. However in dismissing my limited solution, his arguement does not conform with the RQIII errata (*please note* I'm not dictating what rules he or anybody should use in a campaign). The obstacle inherent in my suggestion was that the freebie enchanter would have to give up a point of INT, something which most people would describe as an unfair exchange no matter how large the POW spirit is.

That's all from me

--Peter Metcalfe

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